By Sid’s criteria, Davy Fitz was a more successful manager of Waterford by virtue of reaching all ireland.
Really? Not too many people inside or outside Waterford would agree with you there i’d imagine.
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You also have to factor in the KK team of the 00s when assessing that period — the greatest team to ever play the game.
And the Cork team.
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Waterford were consistently involved in brilliant, exciting matches during his tenure
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Agreed — two phenomenal teams
And that Waterford team went toe to toe with them in some of the best matches I ever witnessed.
A manager who wins an All-Ireland semi-final is more successful than a manager who doesn’t win an All-Ireland semi-final
Lies, damn lies and statistics spring to mind!
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So that Bond lad who took over Offaly late in '98 must be a genius in your mind??.. Nothing to do with crop of players?
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unless they win the final they are both equally unsuccessful
He was successful - he won an All-Ireland
You mentioned the word genius
I didn’t
I’ve no idea why you mentioned that word
Davy in three and a bit seasons got Waterford to an All Ireland Final, never failed to get them to an All Ireland semi final (four in total) and presided over the last provincial title win for Waterford in 2010. All that with a team that after 2008 was largely in transition.
Davy is the Greatest.
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That would be to say that Michael Ryan was as successful a manager of Waterford as Justin McCarthy
Which is obviously not true
Many will say they didn’t this year
It was a very underrated tenure
Justin won 3 Munster Hurling Championships
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I just emphasising how stupid your logic is…
Really? Exciting hammerings to Tipp for example?
But he didn’t win an All-Ireland final, or even reach one
In two of his first four seasons he failed to reach an All-Ireland semi-final, including a limp defeat to a poor Wexford team
That was with that group of Waterford players at their absolute peak
They were a very exciting team but in reality, failing to even reach an All-Ireland final in six full seasons (and you could also throw in 2008 when they were floundering when he left after defeat to Clare) has to go down as a failure
That said he was obviously more successful than Michael Ryan, and so was Gerald McCarthy