No, your logic is stupid
Michael Bond was obviously a successful manager of Offaly
Gerald McCarthy never won anything with Waterford bud. He was equally as unsuccessful as Michael Ryan
Gerald McCarthy revitalised Waterford as a hurling force
Waterford were cannon fodder before he took over including losing to Kerry
His tenure has to be judged as a success
1998 was the first time Waterford were genuine All-Ireland contenders since 1963
So he lifted them out of the ‘doldrums’?
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Someone untie Sid, he’s in a knot…
He did and so did Derek
Waterford were in their lowest place since pre-1998 when he took over
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And Justin?
I’ve swatted away all comers with ease here
You tried to claim Bond was not successful for instance
That’s crazy stuff
Derek did not lift them out of any doldrums, he effectively put them into a big one though.
No… The point I’m making is he had fcuk all time to exert any real influence… Yet they won all ireland…
Michael Ryan presided over 7 Championship games winning 3 - Win rate of 42%
Gerald MCCarthy presided over 11 Championship games winning 4 - Win rate of 36%
You said success is determined by how deep someone goes in a competition, now you’re saying it is based on some arbitrary set of parameters
And what about him
I’ve already given my opinion of him above
In relative terms his tenure has to be judged a failure because those Waterford players should have won at least one All-Ireland
Justin had those players at their absolute peak and didn’t even reach a final - only once did they even perform to anywhere near their best in a semi-final, in 2006
based on what? they were in a decade with two of the strongest teams ever to hurl and it was book ended by a really strong Tipp team also.
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So winning three Munsters is irrelevant as it does not suit your argument. They also competed against two of the greatest teams of all time and were a victim of timing rather than inferior management.
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you haven’t taken into account the zeitgeist. Careful now, or he’ll swat you away
You’re determining arbitrary parameters, pal
Oh, and Gerald McCarthy reached an All-Ireland semi-final, Michael Ryan didn’t
that’s your determination of success which I disagreed with. They are both equally unsuccessful
win percentages and titles won aren’t arbitrary. They are fact
Based on having outstandingly talented players like Ken McGrath, Tony Browne, Dan Shanahan, Paul Flynn, John Mullane, Eoin Kelly, Brick Walsh, all at their peak, most of whom would have walked onto any team in Ireland in any era
They were beaten up a stick by very limited Limerick team which shouldn’t have been fit to lace their boots
They folded against Clare in 2002 and badly underperformed against Kilkenny in 2004
They lacked depth of Kilkenny and Cork at the time which was main reason they failed to lift Liam McCarthy imho.
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