Gaa split season,killing Meath football since 2011

[manbehindthewire]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Rosenbourg situations

Pardon my ignorance here but what is/are “Rosenbourg situatiuons”?

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@manbehindthewire

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Rosenbourg situations

Pardon my ignorance here but what is/are “Rosenbourg situatiuons”?

The likes of ballygunnar and other clubs racking up huge sequences of county championship wins.

I believe @peddlerscross has a list compiled of current and potential rosenbourg situations on another thread.

[endakenny]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

@endakenny

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Well I’d keep them before basically all inter county games bar championship but there is only so much in the calendar.

I won’t lie they don’t really capture my imagination like other people.

The hurling is becoming a little boring.

So you’d get rid of them?
That would be ludicrous.

I would prefer better run county championships than the mad dash to run them off.

Is disagree with you on this.

Also, do you think the likes of Davy Fitzgerald or Jim McGuinness would not train club players during this period, like saying a cat wouldn’t drink milk.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@endakenny

@BruidheanChaorthainn

@endakenny

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Well I’d keep them before basically all inter county games bar championship but there is only so much in the calendar.

I won’t lie they don’t really capture my imagination like other people.

The hurling is becoming a little boring.

So you’d get rid of them?
That would be ludicrous.

I would prefer better run county championships than the mad dash to run them off.

Is disagree with you on this.

Also, do you think the likes of Davy Fitzgerald or Jim McGuinness would not train club players during this period, like saying a cat wouldn’t drink milk.

Each to their own on this.

I think we can at least agree the inter county season is too long.

Paddy’s day is our national day and its connection now to our three national games is basically zero bar one.

Why don’t we start the inter county championships on paddies day with a few big hurling clashes? Absolutely everyone would know the day it would start. Something like thanksgiving football.

[PhattPike]

@endakenny

Counties need to incentivise County leagues in the first half of the year.
Kerry, Clare and Cork seem to have very strong county leagues. In Tipperary, Limerick, Kilkenny and many other counties it’s treated on more or less the same level as challenges.

They are nearly treated as worse than challenges in the sense that, if a challenge is arranged, there is a clear want for it and an effort to get as many involved as possible. League games get seen as a hinderence and you almost plan for certain ones not going ahead.

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

Didnt tipp always run off the u21s hurling oct to dec pre split season?

[peddlerscross]

Yes but as I have mentioned earlier it worked better then as it didn’t have U21 and U17 Football running alongside it.

The failure to use February to July for some Club Underage Activity in the U17/U19/21 categories is absolutely mental stuff.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@PhattPike

@endakenny

Counties need to incentivise County leagues in the first half of the year.
Kerry, Clare and Cork seem to have very strong county leagues. In Tipperary, Limerick, Kilkenny and many other counties it’s treated on more or less the same level as challenges.

They are nearly treated as worse than challenges in the sense that, if a challenge is arranged, there is a clear want for it and an effort to get as many involved as possible. League games get seen as a hinderence and you almost plan for certain ones not going ahead.

Yes but teams and squads have an eco system. There is invariably so many players missing there just isn’t a cut to it and everything builds towards championship.

Championship is so far into the year now it makes it even more irrelevant.

[endakenny]

As someone who is involved with an u21 team I can confirm it is the same that it always was.

It’s ran off using a knockout format (same as it usually was), Lose the first round and it’s a hindrance/waste of time but for the other teams it snowballs into a brilliant winter of knockout games with huge crowds to hearten the winter.

It’s a great competition that keeps lots of lads involved in the club.

Tipperary will be continuing with u17/19/21 which means u21 has got to be knockout.

[Appendage]

I think the GAA season should be taken to be 24 months and not 12. That would solve a lot of problems.

[peddlerscross]

Its traditionally been a 15 month season and that’s the way it should always be.

[Cheasty]

@endakenny

The BIG solution is that county boards need to properly incentivise county leagues.
Both Sheedy and Darragh O’Donovan say there are no games yet scoff county leagues that have huge potential to be very competitive competitions with a bit of effort like a monetary prize or possibly a home game in the championship for winning your league.

Entry to the provincial championship, 1997 Champions League rule change style.

[Heyyoubehindthebushes]

How many ypung fellas would be playing both under 17s football and 21s hurlimg? I would see an issue if both hurlimg championships were run at the same time. Even without split season its hard to decouple for dual players

[peddlerscross]

I would say most rural clubs have three or four 17 year old’s overlapping between grades.

The question goes back to why some of these underage competitions cant be played in the first 6 months of the year? Why?

[Massey]

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Decent numbers at all underage grades currently and I think it’s the 6s/8s and 10s do training together and you wouldn’t be far off a 100 kids running about.

your some spoofer

[StoneCold]

@peddlerscross

Yes but as I have mentioned earlier it worked better then as it didn’t have U21 and U17 Football running alongside it.

The failure to use February to July for some Club Underage Activity in the U17/U19/21 categories is absolutely mental stuff

I recall times pre split season where the under 21 hurling would start sometime around Paddies Day and might not resume again until October.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

@Massey

@BruidheanChaorthainn

Decent numbers at all underage grades currently and I think it’s the 6s/8s and 10s do training together and you wouldn’t be far off a 100 kids running about.

your some spoofer

How?

[peddlerscross]

Yes that did happen way back and was stupid too, but from around 2012-2019 it found its home in the calendar from October to Christmas.

[BruidheanChaorthainn]

Padraig o Mahoney getting plenty of stick for his double split season opinion.

Everyone looks at what’s best for themselves. very few look at what’s good for the greater good.

[Perez2017]

I remember the 90s where club and county were regularly out of championship in early June. Hurling still survived though.