Thatās a Pathetic crowd.
5k in attendance when the two counties met in the 2016 final.
A drop by 60 percent in interest and thatās about correct.
The loads left defending this absolute rubbish are lads afraid to admit they were wrong because they desperately defended it for three years and donāt want to look silly.
Itās basically finished hurling. No one is watching and nobody is playing anymore. A lot of counties canāt afford to play either thanks to this new semi professional season.
There was absolutely nothing wrong in the old format for the hurling championship. It was close to perfect.
It gave nearly every county a chance. Basically every county got to an all Ireland final bar Wexford who won it in 96. Thatās brilliant for any competition.
Now you need a panel of forty, millions of funding and players who are verging on professional.
The rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Thatās always the way in Ireland.
You can forget about hurling at inter county level in Wexford, Offaly and Waterford. They simply donāt have the money.
Very very few will be able to compete anymore thanks to the Split season. Itās so sad this has been allowed happen.
And again round robin games fixed 6 days apart. How many season ending injuries will these games produce?
Of course the six days turn around suits the the counties with huge squads. Again the rich get richer and the poor get poorer.
Itās an absolute disgrace.
How can you have more knockout when thereās only 6 good teams? Thereās only so many times they can knock each other out
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The last ten big knock games in 2023 and 22 ie the q/fs x 4, semi finals x 4 and all Ireland finals x 2 in the hurling championship have been largely shit for the neutral.
What is the reason? Teams are out on their feet after the round robin. Youāve absolutely destroyed what made the gaa great.
Heaven knows how you actually get knocked out of the football championship.
Why compare it to the attendance of a final which will always be higher as teams build momentum?
What was the attendance of Limerick v Tipp in the 2013 Munster senior semi final compared to the final a few weeks later? Iād say close enough to the ratio you posted above
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This is Limerick you are referring to here, right?
Itās nothing to do with Limerick. Limerick have won five all Irelands in six years in three different formats.
Every single move the gaa have made has been to suit the strongest clubs and counties with the most money and the most players while forgetting about the weaker clubs and counties.
Hurling is dying out in front of our eyes thanks to these decisions.
Itās classic paddy. Fawn over the millionaires and billionaires and attack the emigrant. The whole thing is a disgrace.
Even the under 21 championship which was absolutely outstanding and gave more counties a chance of success has been tilted towards the counties with the most money and players.
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As mentioned above you are comparing apples with oranges here.
I still think the split season is a good idea. Just move the all ireland finals to august and everything be grand.
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Hurling is dying? Your own club has 2 if not 3 teams? Barely could field a team 30 years ago.
You see fellas are always afraid to put their hands up and say they were wrong.
It takes character to do it.
Theyāve absolutely destroyed the gaa for no apparent reason. Just to suit the rich and powerful Is all.
My own club joined with another club in parish and at times there was 4 teams between the two separate clubs but usually 3 teams.
When the two clubs joined there has never been more than 2 teams along with a few lads from kilcornan too. Numbers have picked up massively now thanks to all the houses being built in the area. Ten years ago we were struggling to field a junior b team.
So youāre all wrong as per usual.
Offaly have actually got stronger since the split season was introduced.
By the end of the 2014 season, the following players who were 21 or younger (born 1993 or afterwards) had a Championship start to their name.
Tipp:
Ronan Maher, Cathal Barrett
Clare:
Tony Kelly, Colm Galvin, Seadna Morey, Jack Browne, Shane OāDonnell, Peter Duggan
Waterford:
Jamie Barron, Tadhg De Burca, Austin Gleeson, Jake Dillon, Colin Dunford
Galway:
Johnny Glynn, Padraig Mannion, Cathal Mannion, Jason Flynn
Wexford:
Liam Ryan, Conor Mcdonald, Jack Guiney
Dublin
Cian OāCallaghan, Colm Cronin
Limerick
Shane Dowling
There were loads of other lads coming on as subs too like Stephen Bennett, Jason Forde and Jamie Shanahan. Iām probably missing a few more.
Has there been that number of U21ās getting game time in the last 5 Championship seasons combined?
@binkybarnes explain the format of this Leinster u20 hurling championship?
Iāve tried to make sense of it from the Leinster GAA website but Iāve got a headache from it.
Started one championship match in 2017 and had one year as an I/C starter.
These things are somewhat cyclical. How many under 21s were starting I/C in the mid 2000s, probably less than today - albeit changes to S+C mean it is very hard to adapt to IC without a couple of winters in a senior set up
Croatia made a World Cup final in 2018. Thatās the equivalent of westMeath or Laois making an Ireland senior football final.
If you put the right structures in place all the counties can compete on a regular basis in the gaa.
It needs to be like club and international soccer/rugby.
Players released for international duty. Players released for inter county duty. Not the other way round.
Youād need no split season then. Any inter county manager then tries a fiddle gets a ban for 5 years.
Fellas wouldnāt be long falling into line. Instead of spending millions training inter county teams for 8 months of the year they could actually grow the games across the country.
The nfl are giving random players from other sports to contracts to grow the game. These things work.
We have to move away from the academies and super 8s. Otherwise itāll become incredibly boring.
You want me to type it up here so you can pick holes in it?