In Ireland, the Garda SĂochĂĄna Ombudsman Commission are required to investigate any time the actions of GardaĂ may have caused a death.
That shows a marked difference in culture and in what we expect of our police to, say, the US, and itâs a good thing.
You were comparing average cops in the UK with average cops in Ireland. The guards on the scene in Dublin yesterday were not âaverageâ, but members of a select group within the Gardai. Neither me or you know how they are trained in the UK or even how they are trained in Ireland to handle these situations, so I think speculation surrounding this is a moot point.
Sick, sneaky, little cunt.
Youâre on here ranting and raving about things I didnât say.
Grow up.
And learn to read properly before coming onto a discussion board you fuckwit.
You introduced the point.
Ok lads, give over the personal stuff.
Having seen the video just there, it looks more like the fundamental problem was in allowing the confrontation to reach that point.
Whether or how that could have been avoided will be the lesson learned. Once the lad tried to attack the gardai it was beyond the point of anything but potentially lethal force, he was too close, and too intent.
Most things in industry look at the Swiss cheese model, where a series of unfortunate events coincide to line up and make a hole.
Iâm sure the whole situation could have been handled differently, but at the time, I doubt very much the gardai acted unreasonably at any point.
Quote where I defended anyone.
You could also stick up reports of numerous policemen stabbed to death while going about their duty in the UK for a bit of balance. Or even the video from Dublin this summer when the Gardai arrested a man with a knife, but only after he dropped it on the pavement and he wasnât lunging at them with it.
You are defending his death which is the very same in this scenario, you going to deny that too? Course you are.
Are tasers useless then?
In most functioning justice systems this lad would have been in jail. Everyone in the area seems to know it was him who beat an elderly woman a few weeks ago. Why wasnât he apprehended? Are the Gardai too busy on the N11 or looking for house parties or is there any point seeing as how a judge would just let him walk anyway. Neither a good look.
Defending his death? What does that mean?
Saying someone shouldnât be killed is not the same as defending them.
You may not agree with that but itâs a fact in this country because we donât have the death penalty.
Are there any examples of Gardai subduing people with knives without shooting them or any examples of UK police shooting people with knives per chance? 
Or are you just using examples that suit your narrativeâŚ
Its like when people who are caught doing something âfell in with the wrong crowdâ. Nobody ever is âthe wrong crowdâ.
This âsuit your narrativeâ phrase is one of the most overused and misunderstood phrases on TFK.
What I posted were examples that demonstrate that itâs possible for police to subdue a person that is attacking them with a knife or sword without shooting them to death.
Quite simple.
We also have a right to use reasonable force(in this case lethal) to protect ourselves no more so than our Garda units. This is the real world the one you, count von⌠pause count and the imbecile publican refuse to accept. There would be two dead yesterday if the Gardai shared the same thought process as fuck heads like ye but thankfully they donât.
Agree to disagree.
15 GardaĂ should be able to subdue one man with a knife without killing him.
None of your ranting and raving will change that.
