Gardai acting quite aggressively

I believe he told us about how he was violated U.S. cops in the past, I canā€™t imagine that would endear anyone to the upholders of the law.

We must also remember that as a ā€˜gangstaā€™, he hates ā€˜da manā€™ and most likely has ā€˜fuck da policeā€™ tattooed on his chest.

no itā€™s more than that - they think if they are ā€œniceā€ to a cop or co-operate with an official in authority then that person will go easier on them. they typically wonā€™t. All their co-operation means is that the other person has an open goal and takes the shot.

Never apologise. Never co-operate. Never make a voluntary statement where you are in the frame. Stuff like that.

[QUOTE=ā€œTheUlteriorMotive, post: 1044397, member: 2272ā€]no itā€™s more than that - they think if they are ā€œniceā€ to a cop or co-operate with an official in authority then that person will go easier on them. they typically wonā€™t. All their co-operation means is that the other person has an open goal and takes the shot.

Never apologise. Never co-operate. Never make a voluntary statement where you are in the frame. Stuff like that.[/QUOTE]
Yeah, most of the cunts are looking for a way of doing you no matter what. A bit of cunning comes in handy, play them at their own game and you wonā€™t have any issue again.

I see ā€œIT Systemsā€ showing up a fair bit in these postsā€¦

If you report a crime at a station you should request the pulse id that the crime was logged under. What appears to be happening is that a lot of crimes are not recorded, or even when they are recorded they are classified different to massage the stats.

PULSE is being abused and not being used properly. Any business that serious about what they will record, measure, learn, refine. Things are going nowhere fast.

The Wire and its portrayal of the Baltimore police wasnā€™t far off the mark .

But does the law respect them? I dont think it does there have been a few cases in the country of the gardai trying to stitch people up.

These lads have better things to be doing like busting water protestorā€™s headsā€¦

[SIZE=6]ā€˜Thereā€™s two of them in it; Donā€™t annoy him; Let him sleep it offā€™: GardaĆ­ on domestic violence[/SIZE]
[SIZE=5]The Garda Inspectorate does not paint a good picture of how gardaĆ­ deal with incidents. [/SIZE]

THE MAJOR REPORT into how gardaĆ­ investigate crimes looked at how some victims feel they were treated during the process.

The Inspectorate found that most officers provide an excellent service but that there is a problem with consistency across the force.

Interim Commissioner NĆ³irĆ­n Oā€™Sullivan said she was aware that some victims had felt let down by the gardaĆ­.

ā€œI want to reassure all victims of crime that we will support them, take their complaints seriously, and that all complaints will be investigated,ā€ she said in a statement this eveningā€¦

Gardai told one woman who called them to her home after being threatened by her husband: ā€œWe have enough to be doing, next time we wonā€™t call back.ā€
Later that day, her husband stabbed her in front of their child.
The child was also injured.

Speaking specifically about domestic violence, Robert Olson, Chief Inspector of the Garda SĆ­ochĆ”na said, ā€œThe whole issue of domestic violence needs to be thoroughly reviewed.

ā€œWe had about 11,000 domestic violence incidents and there were only 287 cases where somebody got arrested. That needs to be looked at very closely, weā€™re concerned about that.ā€

First Impressions

The report finds that the initial interaction between a garda and a victim is vital ā€“ and can lead to the victim helping in the investigation or not.

The Inspectorate concluded that people reporting property crimes were ā€œfar more positiveā€ than if the offence was an assault or a domestic violence case. In the latter, gardaĆ­ were described as not empathetic and, even, disinterested.

This same view was also expressed by many organisations representing the interests of such victims. Staff at a womenā€™s refuge explained that the service provided to victims of domestic violence varied according to the attitude of the attending garda and frequently the approach was one of disinterest or aimed at limiting garda involvement in investigating further.

Inappropriate comments made by gardaĆ­ were reported by some victims of domestic violence, including:

[LIST]
[]ā€˜Thereā€™s two of them in itā€™
[
]ā€˜Just donā€™t annoy him and he wonā€™t come backā€™
[*]ā€˜Let him sleep it offā€™.
[/LIST]

According to the Inspectorate report, ā€œMost officers always provide an excellent service to victims, but a small minority of officers consistently provide a poor level of service.ā€

It said that across all police services, some young and inexperienced officers find it ā€œvery challenging to deal with victims and suspects in emotionally charged situationsā€.

Despite this knowledge, the Inspectorate said it found ā€œlittle or no evidenceā€ of spot checks by supervisors on how officers were dealing with certain crime scenes. Although, in August 2014, gardaĆ­ began a process of procuring a Public Attitudes Survey, which may help to gather information from victims of crime about the way that their case was managed.

Phone calls are better

GardaĆ­ have been told by the Inspectorate that the letter they initially send to victims needs to be reviewed to be more empathetic.

Currently, victims believe it is a computer-generated, impersonal letter.

The majority of victims receive this first letter, which details the crime and the PULSE reference number, but some regions have better compliance rates than others.

In the third quarter of last year, just 59% of victims in the Kildare division received the first letter, while in Dublin, the compliance rate was 100%.

A second letter ā€“ sent when an offender is identified and the case has progressed ā€“ was not understood by many victims as it states ā€œa person has been made amenableā€.

According to the Inspectorate, ā€œmost victims spoken to did not understand what this term actually meant and had to contact the investigating garda to establish what had actually happenedā€.

It has recommended more phone calls are made to victims at key points in the investigation, such as the arrest, charge or bail of a suspect, as well as any court appearances. It has also pointed to other jurisdictions where IT systems are used with in-built reminders to call victims.

Following up

One of the biggest complaints by victims was a frustration over the lack of follow-up contact.

According to the report, victims believed updates on investigations were not adequately provided. They also found it difficult to contact the investigating garda due to changing shifts.

To compound the shift changes, when victims call a station and the investigator is not there, there is usually nobody else willing to help them. Calls are then not returned, they say.

Front-line gardaĆ­ and detectives recognise the importance of updating victims, but often struggle to find the time to do so, the report confirmed, citing high workloads as a reason.

Many gardaĆ­ also reported that they often have to cancel appointments with victims as a
result of duty changes to their working day.

The current pilot roster further adds to this difficulty, as members are away from work for extended periods of time.

Across the seven divisions, the Inspectorate found an inconsistent approach to updating victims and there was no national standard as to how or when this contact should take place other than the two required victims letters.

The main finding of the report in terms of dealing with victims said, ā€œThe Inspectorate believes that the whole approach to victim care and contact by the Garda SĆ­ochĆ”na needs to be urgently addressed.ā€

ā€œThe Garda SĆ­ochĆ”na needs to provide a far more consistent level of service for victims of crime and regardless of where a crime occurs in Ireland, a victim should receive the same high level of a consistent service.ā€

Plans

GardaĆ­ said today that they have already got a number of plans in place to improve how they deal with victims, including the establishment of Victim Services Offices across the country.

The Public Attitude Survey will also track the views of victims of crime and feedback will be used to identify areas of improvement, according to Oā€™Sullivan.

ā€œIt is vital that all victims of crime receive a consistently excellent support service from An Garda SĆ­ochĆ”na. It is the least they can expect at a time of need.ā€

This guy :grin:

No messing about with this gard

http://www.dublinlive.ie/news/dublin-news/watch-garda-smashes-suspected-thiefs-12564564

Job for the cunt

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I imagine that will cost the state a Fair whack. Fella looks to be cuffed and heā€™ll be claiming whiplash and the car owner will be claiming too. Still though, that might teach him.

Looks like the suspect went for a headbutt. Could be argued as reasonable force

TBF I donā€™t think he meant to slam him through the window

Looks like a reflex action

He was still in pane though

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Iā€™d say itā€™s hard to argue reasonable force with your man in cuffs. (if he is). Looks like heā€™s knocked out. And it looks like he bends him over backwards.

Art Foley has one of the finest legal minds in humbserside

how dare you question him

Hope he wasnā€™t framed by the cops.

:rofl::rofl::rofl:

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Wouldnā€™t it have been great if the driver had fucked the pig out under an arctic.

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