Gardai acting quite aggressively

[Thomas_Brady]

It’s too fucking easy and predictable on here. Christ … the place is truly, truly gone.

[myboyblue]

It’s time to move on and never forget

[StoneCold]

Everything OK, bud?

[Bandage]

I saw a clip on Twitter yesterday of Si Harris on the campaign trail with James Geoghegan in DBS for the by-election. They had a little open air press briefing. Rich Bruton and others were there too. Si said it was the 25th anniversary of Garda McCabe’s death and Senator Lynn Boylan had questions to answer about whether Sinn Féin supported the Special Criminal Court or not. I rolled my eyes to heaven and thought…are these gobshites going to try to make something as fucking irrelevant to people’s day to day lives as the SCC an election theme for about the 13th election in a row? Then they all posed for a snap, posted on Twitter, of them sitting outside TriBeCa in Ranelagh with a shopfront called Head Cases in the background.

[Thomas_Brady]

But, but, but… Sinn Fein.

[Fagan_ODowd]

@Thomas_Brady

But, but, but… Sinn Fein.

They have questions to answer.

[Juhniallio]

@binkybarnes

@Gary_Birtles_Lovechi

Why are they trying to make this into a race thing? I don’t condone his killing, and it certainly could have been handled better by the ARU, but George was shot because he was deemed a danger to people. He went into a supermarket with a knife and assaulted someone afterall. He then later lunged at Gardai with the same knife.

This is exactly why his family are looking for answers . He was mentally ill and was shot 6 times on his own doorstep by armed police. The GSOC inquiry seems to be a washout. 2 months after the shooting and GSOC hadn’t interviewed the guard that did the shooting. His family are dead right to be looking for answers. I doubt it was a race thing either but it was an unnecessary taking of a life.

This is absolutely unbelievable if true.

[binkybarnes]

@Juhniallio

This is absolutely unbelievable if true.

Gsoc interviews garda who fired fatal shots in killing of George Nkencho

Only the 10 weeks after the shooting.

[Juhniallio]

Fucking madness. Surely a high profile case like this gets priority and is done right. That’s so fucked up.

[binkybarnes]

@Juhniallio

Fucking madness. Surely a high profile case like this gets priority and is done right. That’s so fucked up.

The optics are shocking and makes the family’s lack of confidence in GSOC understandable.

[flattythehurdler]

Sort of, but I’d imagine the gard was fairly distraught also, and I suspect he had to be cleared fit to be interviewed by the psychology/mental health team.
I doubt very much the lads were scratching their armpits for months before saying “ara I spose we’ll have to do it sometime”

[glasagusban]

@flattythehurdler

suspect he had to be cleared fit to be interviewed by the psychology/mental health team.

You get that this is an investigation into the lawfulness or otherwise of the incident, right?

[flattythehurdler]

You get that a Garda
Ah feck it, I’m not getting into this.

[glasagusban]

Apology accepted.

[Cheasty]

@binkybarnes

This is exactly why his family are looking for answers . He was mentally ill and was shot 6 times on his own doorstep by armed police. The GSOC inquiry seems to be a washout. 2 months after the shooting and GSOC hadn’t interviewed the guard that did the shooting. His family are dead right to be looking for answers. I doubt it was a race thing either but it was an unnecessary taking of a life.

I find it difficult to believe there wasn’t some degree of racial bias there, whether conscious or unconscious. What we can say is that it was a failure of policing in that the police failed to produce the desired outcome from the situation. Any situation like that which produces a dead person is a failure. There are degrees of failure though. Occasionally failures are pretty much unavoidable because of the behaviour or modus operandi of the person being pursued. I don’t think this was the case in this incident however. I think a better outcome could have been achieved.

And it’s impossible to shake the feeling that the system is making it as difficult as possible for the Nkencho family to get answers, never mind justice. I think we already see that it is.

[TheUlteriorMotive]

@Cheasty

racial bias there, whether conscious or unconscious.

So the cop who shot him was biased against black people but just not aware of it.

How would you address that ?

[Cheasty]

@TheUlteriorMotive

So the cop who shot him was biased against black people but just not aware of it.

How would you address that ?

I don’t know to what degree there was racial bias at play if any because I can’t get inside the heads of the Gardai present. I suspect there was unconscious racial bias at play.

When Eddie Brennan said what he said 20 years ago, how did he frame it?

Is Unconscious Bias Training not a fairly standard form of training for police internationally?

[binkybarnes]

@flattythehurdler

I doubt very much the lads were scratching their armpits for months before saying “ara I spose we’ll have to do it sometime

Unfortunately it seems this may have been the case.

[Batigol]

I don’t believe there was any racial bias in the shooting (just my opinion) but I don’t think the guards/gsoc are helping themselves here.

[LionelRitchie]

Is there any formal protocol in this situations I wonder? It does look bad but if it’s procedural would at least go some way to explaining it