General Election 2016

Correct, it left us in no doubt that the IRA wanted to end whatever “patriotic” concepts they had, and embraced themselves as a criminal and terrorist organisation.

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Whatever you want, whatever you like

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John Bruton sucked off Prince Charles.

Down, down, deeper and down was the obvious and best one.

SF now tipped to take a seat in Clare, and FG to lose one. This was a constituency where SF were assumed to have no chance. If this type of result happens FG will be below 50 seats and SF certainly over 30, perhaps well over it.

Opinion polls from regional newspapers would not be a great measure I would imagine.

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Margin of error is 5%, so her 12.88% could be 7.88% or 17.88%, can’t read much into that. Not controlled in terms of occupation or urban/rural location either.
Interesting but I wouldn’t be putting too much on it.

You’d wonder what the track record of the marketing department of LIT is as well.

Did anyone hear Gerry’s interview on Sean O’Rourke earlier? Was it as poor as is suggested?

Is Gerry a complete simpleton when it comes to numbers/details?

The presenter singled out the plan for additional taxes on individuals’ incomes over €100,000.

He pointed out that a couple earning €70,000 each - a combined €140,000 - would not be affected while a car salesman on €110,000 with a stay-at-home partner would pay more.

“Where’s fairness in that?,” he asked.

“The fairness is that that person under a Sinn Féin-led administration will get value for their money,” Mr Adams replied.

“I find as I go about the place that our people are very decent. They don’t complain – most people – about paying taxes. They complain about paying taxes and not getting services,” he added.

Asked if the car salesman would be pay 59c at the margin Mr Adams replied: “No, no. He’s going to be paying on every euro earned over €100,000… 7c in a euro.”

“All adding up to 59pc at the margin. Now c’mon we’re at basic facts here aren’t we,” Mr O’Rourke added.

“Yes but I’m conceding the point that an individual earning over €100,000 will pay no more than 7c in the euro for every euro earned,” Mr Adams replied.

“Sorry you seem to be suggesting that every euro you earn above €100,000 will only be taxed at 7c in the euro. That is not the case,” Mr O’Rourke said.

“That is the case Sean. That is the case that has been carefully worked out with us because we want to be fair in all of this but we also want to use the tax money to provide public services and I go back to the point I was making about the decency of people.

“They want this to be a society in which children don’t go to be hungry,” he said, adding: “we would look to the patriotism of people and I find this is a huge element in the make-up of our people.”

“I don’t accept that you’re only going to be charging 7pc on income above €100,000,” Mr O’Rourke said.

“Well let’s agree to differ,” Mr Adams said before the presenter said that the facts would be checked.

“That would be a massive tax giveaway to people earning more than €100,000,” Mr O’Rourke added.

“Sean, sometimes you even surprise me,” Mr Adams said.

“Up until €100,000 people will be paying a tax rate of less than 50pc. The additional tax will come in on earnings above €100,000."

“At what rate?,” Mr O’Rourke asked.

“It would be around 59 in the full accumulation depending…how much they spend. This is about getting those who can afford to pay most to pay most,” Mr Adams said.

“So over €100,000 you’re paying 59c on the margin?,” Mr O’Rourke asked.

“You’re going to pay 7c in every euro,” Mr Adams replied adding “I can’t keep repeating myself”.
“You seem to be suggesting two different things,” O’Rourke said.

“No I am sorry I am not Sean. You’re the one that’s confused. I’m not the least bit confused,” Adams replied.
“I’m not in the slightest confused,” the presenter said adding: “Perhaps our listeners might be.”

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Well their CV would start with, sub 400 point leaving certs anyway :grinning:

Maybe the stay at home partner should find some work.

Jaysis - Charlie Mccreevy tried that and the women of Ireland rose up in a rage!

Anyway, apart from that little detail, which is more policy query rather than a gaffe, it’s clear that Gerry doesn’t have a notion about broadly how the tax system works (the phase “at the margin” blew his mind) or much understanding of his parties tax policy ("7c in every euro above €100k).

Again, I’d say Pearse had his head in his hands listening.

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Gerry embarrassing himself on national media again :flushed:

O my, this is hilarious :grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::grinning_face_with_smiling_eyes::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy::joy:

I guess maths was not important in Gerry’s British education.

Adams :slightly_smiling:

Dear Lord - did he play rugby when he was younger?

He’s from Britain, no surprise really

I think there might be a fiscal space between Gerrys ears.

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Sinn Fein advocating marginal rate of 62 per cent or 7 per cent on self employed income over 100k :confused: