General Election 2016

Ethics is a subject no Fine Gael member would ever pass.

Who is spoofing about doing away with USC? I fully believe that Fine Gael, Fianna Fail and Labour will make good on their promises regarding USC as it benefits the high earners and upper class the most, which includes TDs given the salary they earn.

which innocent people?

I have no idea why you are harping on about fine gael to me?

So a centre left country that lets its people elect its government has returned a centre right government since its inception.
Is that the Gerry Adams school if logic?

Noonan is the main spoofer on the USC mate. To abolish that will cost the country 4 billion euros over the next 5 years, which is also only possible with 2.5-3% growth year on year.

We’ve never had a more unstable start to the year in the equity markets. As an open economy we’re wide open to another recession again if the shits hits the fan. (which is looking very likely at the moment - bar a war)

On top of that, I can’t see the German’s agreeing to it. Auction politics at its worst. I’d love to see the fucking thing done away with but that’s whats paying off those scumbag bondholders, of course that’s never mentioned nowadays.

No. I’m questioning Tim Riggin’s logic when he calls Ireland a centre left country when it has consistently returned centre right governments.

Do you think financial stability at all concerns Noonan or FG? They couldn’t give a monkeys, all they are concerned about are themselves and the elite in society who dictate the policies, as their track record shows it won’t be them who will suffer in terms of an economic crisis, it will probably be the like of them and their cohorts who will benefit.

And SF’s plans to alter the USC has a minimum impact on the overall tax net, it just stops burdening the weakest in society with it.

FFS

Oireland is the state that was set up by the counter revolutionaries. That is a given. Of course its centre right

  • A centralised free health service? Medical cards?
  • a welfare state from providing social welfare, social housing to benefits? Free travel for OAPs?
  • education going from being confined to primary level, to free at second level to free third level?
  • a country which champions social partnership?
  • widespread subsidises for farmers as part of membership of the European Union?

This country opened itself up economically, allowing those who want to give it a go in business to do so. The trade in for that was increased public expenditure. That still exists today. “Austerity” is considered by all the major parties as a temporary measure which they will gradually roll back and already have begun to do so.

Laughable stuff. The spoofers are never challenged on this. They are allowed to scream “right wing” at FG to their hearts content. I wish FG were properly right wing but they aren’t.

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we have the 3rd stingiest social welfare in Europe

we pay european average income taxes but we get fuck all services

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Can’t argue with that, I agree with all those points.

FG and Labour mate.

And it won’t happen either, pure lies.

So we agree that FG, FF and Labour don’t really care about the vulnerable society and are only interested in looking after themselves and those of significant influence in the country?

The abolishing of the USC benefits high earners singularly in this, FG, FF and Labour are trying to market it that everyone will benefit from it by logic of their net wages increasing but neglect to point out the lack of money they can put it to public services. I fully believe FG, FF and Labour on their plans with the USC as abolishing it will only benefit the elite of society and that fits in perfectly with their modus operandi.

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A centre right country does not follow the public expenditure path Ireland has. More and more goodies as we got richer. A pining for a health service the quality of the NHS and a longing for European style social democratic policies such as free third level fees.

Socially conservative until the 90s is true but barring the mother and child scheme farce, this country has moved steadily towards more state spending. Spend as you have it is what got this country into trouble.

I liked that post, but I would’nt have FF in that category, with the other two.

They fucked up good and proper, but historically they at least did try and look after the working man.

A state whose governers obsequiously bows to non-tax resident billionaires and multinational companies is not a centre left country, pal.

Regardless of political party policies, what effective rate of tax should a normal guy on say 45k a year pay?

Why do FG, FF and Labour policies differ so little?