General Election 2016

100 years on and an election on this island still being fought on the basis of the treaty. What a people :clap:

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Thinly veiled - ā€œit is a republic and I am wrongā€

Typical free state claptrap

Isnā€™t the FG policy that as USC is phased out - it is effectively kept at a same rate (but below 50%) for the portion of the salary above 100k so high earners donā€™t disproportionately benefit from USC cut.

The SF policy is to increase the tax rate on salaries above 100k to a marginal rate of between late 50ā€™s and low 60ā€™s.

That seems quite different policy to me i.e. tax increases vs no tax increases.

Typical republic claptrap more like.

It takes time to build up a party structure from nothing, especially given the historical advantage which FF and FG have.

Labour in Ireland has the been the largest historical case study of failure in Europe.

The PDs after an initial burst fizzled out very quickly.

Several other small parties never got beyond a handful of seats.

Gerry Adams has steadily built Sinn Fein up to a position where leading a government is a realistic possibility in 5-10 yearsā€™ time. Thatā€™s an incredible achievement and heā€™s done it in the face of the whole of the Southern Irish political and media establishment treating it as a pariah.

Yatesy called Meath East today

  1. FG - McEntee
  2. FF - Byrne
  3. SF - Oā€™Donnell

Sitting TDā€™s Regina Doherty (FG) and Dominic Hannigan (LAB) to loose out.

Says the INTERNET neo-Nazi supporter. :smile:

You win again @Sidney
Chalk it down kid.

If Yatesy is calling Meath East and Dublin Bay South for SF, he must think SF will be well north of 30 seats and FG/Labour under 65 seats.

Interesting website here @Sidney

http://www.irishelectionstats.com

Essentially the guy behind it has built a model that integrates both the latest opinion polls and a constituency by constituency analysis. Itā€™s a pretty detailed model and the first one Iā€™ve seen that tries to use nationwide opinion polls to build up a seat analysis including regional weightings, transfer weightings etc.

For what itā€™s worth - heā€™s calling SF for 31 seats.

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I think you will find that by the 100th anniversary of the Civil War, the Civil War will be officially over. FG and FF will have governed together and having governed together will wonder what all the fuss was about for the last century. They will continue then to govern as a block for a long time.

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Youā€™re up early today.

Well observed Fagan, knock off the few years there will ya?

Update on that website http://www.irishelectionstats.com

Looking at it in more detail, it does probability by party, constituency, gender etc and then time series each time new polls are released.

If the model is confirmed as accurate - then itā€™s a game changer for Irish politics.

Thatā€™s really good.

Itā€™ll never take into account the intricacies of the transferable vote though.

For instance, Dessie Shiels has a 0% chance of a seat in Donegal despite the fact that on his first outing five years he polled 1500 first prefs and has steadily built his base and profile. Heā€™ll be the go to transfer in Letterkenny and North Donegal. Paddy Power have him at 13/2

In Wexford it gives the Sinn FĆ©in candidate a 100% chance of winning a seat but Brendan Howlin a 1% chance of winning one. Paddy Power have him at 1/10.

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Actually looking at Dublin Bay North - it doesnā€™t make any sense.

SF with 2 candidates >80% is way off. Or am I misreading something?

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I donā€™t get it though. In Dublin Bay North it gives both SFers an 80% plus chance of being elected. But I donā€™t think anyone believes theyā€™ll get two seats, so does high probability suggest thatā€™s where the seats will go?

Snap. Thatā€™s the point at which I lost faith in this panjandrum.