Hillsborough

Scouserā€™s have a sense of community alright https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/football/david-conn-inside-sport-blog/2013/may/06/anfield-liverpool-david-conn

Thereā€™s a video of them climbing over the wall into a fa cup final shortly after heysel. The sickening thing is the scousers refuse to accept responsibility for killing their own fans and not only that is they refuse to move despite conveniently forgotten about all the juventus fans theyā€™ve murdered too.

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Liverpool fans turning up with no tickets caused the death of their own fans. Itā€™s nobodies fault only the Liverpool fans that were there that day. They then pick pocketed the dead.

Jesus Christā€¦ This thread is patheticā€¦ And just shows that this place brings out the absolute worst in people.

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There are lads here who have to be genuinely mentally ill and mad with the world, there is no other explanation

You could sort of understand if posters engaged in this sort of stuff as a one off but there are lads here who have been continually doing it for a decade or more

More to be pitied I guess

Rich coming from the guy who jokes about kids dying

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And people being rapped

The self hating lads who wank themselves off thinking about the deaths of the Hillsborough victims, they get fierce offended by a bit of truth, they just couldnā€™t resist proving my point

Do you honestly think such people exist?

Iā€™d say thatā€™s pretty mild for some lads here

Stop it. A court of law declares the truth which is opposite to LFC doctrine and now all of a sudden TFK brings out the worst in people. Kop on to yourself there like a good lad, not everyone drinks the Anfield kool aid

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Not criminally responsible but the police were responsible and that was established in the inquests which you seem to ignore. Duckenfield has lied about what happened and was eventually caught out in those lies. He said Liverpool fans pushed open a gate when he gave the order to open a gate.

Duckenfield, prosecution inevitably followed the inquests, where he admitted in March 2015 that his multiple ā€œprofessional failingsā€ at the FA Cup semi-final between Liverpool and Nottingham Forest on 15 April 1989 ā€œled to the deaths of 96 innocent men, women and childrenā€.

The inquest jury based its unlawful killing verdict on the clear direction of the coroner, the senior former Court of Appeal judge Sir John Goldring, that they could reach it only if they were satisfied ā€œthat David Duckenfield, the match commander, was responsible for the manslaughter by gross negligence of those 96 peopleā€.

Asked what had happened by the Football Associationā€™s chief executive, Graham Kelly, Duckenfield did not tell the truth: that he had ordered exit gates to be opened to allow a large number of people in quickly and alleviate a crush at the turnstiles. Instead, Duckenfield told Kelly that Liverpool supporters had forced a gate open.

At the new inquests, Duckenfield admitted that after exit gate C was opened and more than 2,000 people came in, his own failure to have them directed away from a tunnel, which led to the crowded central pens, caused the lethal crush. He also admitted that he had indeed lied at 3:15pm on the day, then again at a meeting of club directors at about 3:45pm, and that it had been a ā€œterrible lieā€.

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Lads reading and believing what they read in The Sun. All the rumours put out by police to pin the blame on Liverpool fans are still being used as ā€˜factsā€™ despite the police being caught telling lies.

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These are all fair points but isnā€™t the reason he opened the turnstiles because he thought people were getting crushed to death there?

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Why did he lie immediately on the day?

Iā€™d say he lied because a lot of people had died and he was shitting bricks.

I donā€™t think thereā€™s any argument that he opened the gate because there was a major crush there and he was trying to stop people getting hurt. He didnā€™t think ā€œwouldnā€™t it be funny if the police just let people in without ticketsā€. He was trying to take care of the people. Obviously he made the wrong decision but he doesnā€™t deserve to be vilified.

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If Duckenfield hadnā€™t opened the gates itā€™s entirely possible hundreds more would have been killed.

The jury were the only people who heard the facts and they offered an emphatic not guilty verdict.

Awful that all those people died and there is blame attached to all parties - the FA, the police and those drunken, ticketless Liverpool fans who stormed the ground.

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Duckenfield in his own words during the trial ā€˜my professional failings led to the death of 96 innocent men, women and childrenā€™.

Man U Super fan @dodgy_keeper was advocating yesterday that Prime Minister Johnson honour Duckenfield in the New Years Honours List. Fascinating how a redneck from County Limerick lives his life through the prism of Mancs v Scousers and sneers at the unlawful deaths of 96 innocent victims and their families campaign for justice.