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@Tim_Riggins sowing it into the landlord
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Simpletons keep saying we need high rise buildings because theyâre fairly thick. Itâs not fucking Manhattan. What we need are apartment blocks of around 4 to 6 stories high and more of them, with sufficient amenities around them and decent public transport.
Another fine gesture from glas, fuck all tangible but shur heâs made a point on the internet and heâll sleep well tonight.
How much & who pays?
Optimum density is 6-8 floors.
How does that work in a city with Georgian heritage of 5 or less floors?
How do you do it in such a way to take advantage of the Public Transport links we do have, in order to reduce congestion and improve the environment?
How do you do it without mass demolitions of two to three floor houses in Dublin?
This isnât about âManhattanâ. This is about increasing Dublinâs average height to the likes of Paris, which is more than Dublinâs.
In the Connolly quarter they have redesigned a scheme that had 106 apartments to over 700. Do you not want more social housing? Do you not want places for people to live?
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How many of the 741 apartments will go for Social Housing?
Should the proposed apartment complex secure approval, the units there would cater for the upper end of the private rental market.
10% as is the law.
What have you gone with so far Mac?
You called it a âpoor locationâ beside a Ghetto.
You then went on some bizarre rant about train stations.
Then it was âwe canât ever have apartments because they were built poorly beforeâ.
Are you now on the social housing buzz?
He didnât make any point?
Oh sorry, dublin isnât Manhattan. Well thought out one there.
Sounds like heâs worried about his HAP money now.
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He also told the board, amidst the typical angry and arrogant ranting, that simpletons are fairly thick. Informative.
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A quick glance around Europe for these lads might do them some good. Away from the tourist traps of course.
Youâre more naive than I thought if you think this is actually being implemented
Surely it was implemented in lots of estates though? Does it work, are the social affordable houses assimilated well or are there issues?
@bandage alluded to it earlier. Iâm sure it happens in plenty of developments but not the lucrative ones built in the prestige locations
You have no coherent argument here and are latching onto anything to get yourself out of this. We can all see through the act. Youâre a slum landlord who is trying to keep the gravy train going for as long as possible.
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Wow. Kev tactics of going straight for the man again. Thatâs the third or fourth time youâve had a pop at me for some bizarre reason just because I donât agree with your point of view. Some awful insecurity on show from you.
My point of view hasnât changed. I donât think a development that big in that location is a good idea. Itâs an area that is already bursting at the seams and the public transport infrastructure around there can hardly handle the existing crowds using it.
Itâs not a development that will benefit those most impacted by the housing crisis in any way as you claim. Itâs focused on high end wealthy renters. If you think Mulryan is going to hand over 74 high end apartments for Social Housing then youâre off your rocker.
And finally, Irish developers build shit apartments. They work in other European cities as they have proper building regulations and the regulators arenât lackies who half do their job. Until we reach a point that we can build apartment blocks that arenât defective then high rise apartment blocks are not the answer for anything.
No doubt youâll twist this back to something about me again as it doesnât conform to your point of view but carry on anyway.
Guys, keep it civil, its a reasonable debte so far. Lets not turn into shrieking lefties here.
Sean Mulryan has no choice. They are finishing Dublin Landings, his development. Guess what? 10% social housing.
One of the few exceptions is Dublin Landings, which was designed to âintroduce a new standard of rental product in Dublinâ. Its 268 apartments were recently sold by SeĂĄn Mulryanâs Ballymore and its partner Oxley for âŹ175.5 million (or about ⏠654,850 each) to US-headquartered property giant Greystar. The council tells us â though it didnât disclose how much it paid â that it has managed to secure 30 of these apartments in Block B for social housing.
Like the above, your other points are pure horseshit. Taking apart one by one, a load of incoherently argued rubbish.
Thereâs more to it than you outline Tim. Iâll admit I didnât realise it was the councilâs choice to not buy apartments but this development will be similar to those mentioned from a price point of view so itâs fair to assume theyâll be priced out of it again.
You really are desperate. The Connolly Quarter is described as âluxuryâ so it is Bolands Mills now. Dublin Landings wasâŚshock shockâŚalso described as luxury.