Humphries on the Cork saga

[quote=“artfoley”]actually another thing to mention is the dignity that the 09 squad have carried themselves with, consdiering all the shit going on in the background with the media blatantly ignoring them not referring to them properly and the malice, dirty tricks and abuse they had to dealwith for the honour of pulling on a red shirt.

I wish them all the best and i hope they blank kieran shannon and his ilk[/quote]

Here’s his statement in full:

By Gerald McCarthy

Wednesday January 21 2009

The refusal of the players to meet all parties, Olann Kelleher the independent chairman, or any other independent person, simply confirms for me that there never has been any serious intent by the leaders of this dispute to try to resolve the current issues.

I believe their attitude to the independent chairman, whose sole interest, as a keen follower of all Cork sport, was to broker a solution, has been offhand and obstructive. I would like to thank Olann for all his efforts to resolve the issues.

Efforts by the County Board and myself to resolve this impasse have been going on since October. We have not, as some commentators have suggested, been sitting on our hands. The player representatives who last year refused to allow Kieran Mulvey and Paraic Duffy meet with all the players, also refused a similar request by me in November.

The best efforts of Jimmy Barry-Murphy, Tomas Mulcahy and Dr Con Murphy came to nothing because of the players’ attitude. In the past fortnight, the players refused to meet me although I had turned up to meet them. A few days later, having apparently agreed to meet with me, the players then indicated that they would not meet with selectors Teddy McCarthy and John Keane. Having changed their minds on that, they now refuse to meet under Olann Kelleher.

No-one on the management team, whatever our faults, has any such illusions about our own importance.

This has been one of the saddest periods in Cork hurling. The players, having agreed to participate in a unique process outlined by Kieran Mulvey, reneged on it. The players never put forward an alternative name to mine during the five meetings of the selection process.

The players wished to interview managerial candidates. I am not aware of any sport which would allow current players to interview candidates who would become their managers or coaches.

The player leaders walked out of the process and, despite giving their word to the contrary in last year’s dispute, went on strike. The players want the right to veto the appointment of the county manager, and effectively appoint their own manager.

They don’t accept that different perspectives to their own are worthy of any consideration. And when those who claim representative status for all the players don’t get exactly what they want, they walk away and reach for a placard. Does any real or perceived grievance justify the damage that has been done to Cork hurling?

I find the efforts to pressurise members of the current panel not to turn out for Cork very hard to take. The image of senior players trying to get young players not to turn out for Cork is one that should make every hurling follower feel very uncomfortable. The players involved seem not only to wish to decide who their manager should be but would also determine who should and shouldn’t play for Cork.

Some of the commentary on the dispute has been very unfair and has made no attempt to examine the issues involved. The treatment of the players as having no responsibility for their actions, on or off the field, has simply made resolution more difficult.

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Likewise, there is an undercurrent of undeclared conflicts of interest surrounding this dispute which has been far from “fair, decent or transparent” and which, in time, will probably emerge.

There are a few constants in my view of hurling. The overriding one is that it is an absolute honour to play for Cork and to follow the great names that went before. I am not interested anymore in negotiating with last year’s panel. I have done everything possible to facilitate a solution. It’s time to move on. My full attention for the next two years will be on the players who have come forward to play with Cork. This season’s squad have been deprived of the help and guidance of more experienced players because of this dispute and that is a pity. The Cork public needs to support them and be patient and encouraging. The young players are putting a huge effort into training for the National League and will go abroad in April for intensive training.

In time they will be joined by others who want to play for their county.

There will always be a welcome from me and my management team for any player who wants to play for Cork.

  • Gerald McCarthy

A bit too much name dropping there Gerald. Tell Billo to make you sound a bit more GAA Club Man and bit less RTE Panalist.

If I were you I’d be spending more time watching Teddy Mc than rolling out a red carpet of medal winners. That being said You should take comfort in knowing the John Gardiner and Donal Og finished their inter-County playing careers off by their own actions and not by anything you/ CCB said or didn’t say.

If I could send a message to ALL players it would be;
The red and white jersey wears You.
You don’t wear it.

[quote=“Mairegangaire”]
If I could send a message to ALL players it would be;
The red and white jersey wears You.
You don’t wear it.
[/quote]

Thats fucking beautiful, I nearly cried a little.

So anyone want to speculate on the players who will break ranks?

[quote=“myboyblue”]Thats fucking beautiful, I nearly cried a little.

So anyone want to speculate on the players who will break ranks?[/quote]

easier to speculate on the definite retirees.
Without knowing the personalities involved id imagine anyone who has kept their mouths shut can surely walk back with integrity intact and heads in the air, those who did the mouthing will not.

This rules out among others,

Sean Og
Donal Og
Gardiner
Ben OC
Sullivan and Deane too involved

if any of the others have a pair of balls they will hurl for cork this summer.

[quote=“myboyblue”]Thats fucking beautiful, I nearly cried a little.

So anyone want to speculate on the players who will break ranks?[/quote]

I might even get Chicken George to do a t-shirt.

Anyone going to open the book to see who lifts the quote first?

whats the feeling now in Cork about the players?

Personally, I really feel that for what could have been a great period and a side to go down in history as one that brought in a face paced style of hurling that was great to watch and a side that along with Kilkenny, dominated the sport for a time, will now go down in history for all the wrong reasons, and I really feel that their careers are tarnished by their actions here.

Instead of remembering these players fondly for their style of play and how they won games, they are in my mind being remembered for bringing the sport down to one of the lowest ebbs in its 125 year history.

[quote=“myboyblue”]Thats fucking beautiful, I nearly cried a little.

So anyone want to speculate on the players who will break ranks?[/quote]

I suppose you’d have to look at the younger lads, who will probably see what they consider to be less talented lads from their own clubs togging out for Cork while they kick their heels all summer waiting for the club championship to be played.

It’s pretty safe to say, we’ve seen the last of Donal Og, Sean Og, Ben O’Connor and Gardiner anyways but it wouldn’t be much of a shock to see the younger players return.

Stick Hurling RIP

where oonce it was Cork & KK that played stick hurling - now its just KK

[quote=“north county corncrake”]Stick Hurling RIP

where oonce it was Cork & KK that played stick hurling - now its just KK[/quote]

It’s downfall was the lack of walls.

I wish it was just that - that ESRI report is never too far away im afraid

[quote=“The Runt”]I suppose you’d have to look at the younger lads, who will probably see what they consider to be less talented lads from their own clubs togging out for Cork while they kick their heels all summer waiting for the club championship to be played.

It’s pretty safe to say, we’ve seen the last of Donal Og, Sean Og, Ben O’Connor and Gardiner anyways but it wouldn’t be much of a shock to see the younger players return.[/quote]

I think Ben and Sean Og will be the first to break. Definately Sean Og.

“This game is my life I love this game I just want to play”

Is he looking for a publicist by any chance?

Ben has another all star in him so he’ll shurr’up. Rock should have gone 4 seasons ago anyway, Donal? Well I never rated him from the start, and John Gardiner was always a whingey moany flakey shakey type player whose occasional brilliance hid too much. (03 AI free taking for example).

If I could have Sean Og, Deano and Ben I would be very confident of another good fighting season. And if I could have a quiet moment with Tomas O’Leary …

They don’t train in Dublin Runt.

What would you say to Tomas O Leary MGG.

Here lad, pack up the 200k a year contract and the opportunity to travel the world playing professional sport. There are a gang of lads back in Cork who cant make up there mind about playing for the County this year, any chance you might give us a dig out, oh ya youl need to get a job as well because they cant pay you. No I cant guarantee that you wont be labelled a scab by the supporters who back the players.

its not a very attractive proposition is it.

Wouldnt be surpirsed to see him have a crack off it for a year when he retires from the rugby though.

[quote=“dancarter”]What would you say to Tomas O Leary MGG.

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I don’t know if it’d be hurling she’d like to talk to him about :smiley:

[quote=“dancarter”]What would you say to Tomas O Leary MGG.

Here lad, pack up the 200k a year contract and the opportunity to travel the world playing professional sport. There are a gang of lads back in Cork who cant make up there mind about playing for the County this year, any chance you might give us a dig out, oh ya youl need to get a job as well because they cant pay you. No I cant guarantee that you wont be labelled a scab by the supporters who back the players.

its not a very attractive proposition is it.

Wouldnt be surpirsed to see him have a crack off it for a year when he retires from the rugby though.[/quote]

Well I’d have his Da and John Fenton give him a clatter around the ears first. Then I’d remind him that once a Cork Captain always a Cork Captain. (See Mulcahy as an eg for Career Span)

And as the Rugbee is only played in Winter, a bit of summer hurling would keep him fit and improve the game that pays him 200k. And there’s always the earning opportunity with that GPA Orange stuff to throw into the mix too.

Sur the colour’s the same, nobody’d notice anyway.

[quote=“Mairegangaire”]Well I’d have his Da and John Fenton give him a clatter around the ears first. Then I’d remind him that once a Cork Captain always a Cork Captain. (See Mulcahy as an eg for Career Span)

And as the Rugbee is only played in Winter, a bit of summer hurling would keep him fit and improve the game that pays him 200k. And there’s always the earning opportunity with that GPA Orange stuff to throw into the mix too.
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Ya and if he sold enough club orange the GPA might give him a scholarship :smiley:

[quote=“dancarter”]What would you say to Tomas O Leary MGG.

Here lad, pack up the 200k a year contract and the opportunity to travel the world playing professional sport. There are a gang of lads back in Cork who cant make up there mind about playing for the County this year, any chance you might give us a dig out, oh ya youl need to get a job as well because they cant pay you. No I cant guarantee that you wont be labelled a scab by the supporters who back the players.

its not a very attractive proposition is it.

Wouldnt be surpirsed to see him have a crack off it for a year when he retires from the rugby though.[/quote]

Think MGG wants a crack off of Tomas more than him having a crack off of the hurling. :smiley:

He’s too much like he Da for me.

Too Small.

[quote=“Mairegangaire”]He’s too much like he Da for me.

Too Small.[/quote]

Wouldn’t have the Ned his dad had in his hayday though

[quote=“dancarter”]
Wouldnt be surpirsed to see him have a crack off it for a year when he retires from the rugby though.[/quote]

A la Shane Byrne for Aughrim?