Hunting & other rural pursuits

I wouldn’t touch farmed fish. The rabbit I had was always wild. Butcher in chorlton stocked it from time to time. He always said he’d shot it himself but he may have been lying.

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Same as fish, same as your beloved mushrooms. Was watching a programme recently about farmed salmon and they were showing the colour of the flesh (a gray/whiteish colour) before adding the orange dye to it to make it more appealing on the supermarket shelf or restaurant plate. You could blind fold me, feed me a pint of poitin and I’d tell the difference between a wild and farmed mushroom

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I believe in context, outside of food allergies – in manners, in a word. So if I go to someone’s house, and am enjoying their kind hospitality, I do not ask after the provenance of their food. But I do not eat, as a rule, intensively farmed meat or farmed fish. Which is to say: I do not buy that stuff. But there are times, such as after a match, when dogmatism is not possible. Is there a chipper that serves organic chips
? Etc.

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Same as.

Farmed salmon is evil. Would not touch it. Back a few years, I used to buy, the odd time, organic farmed salmon, both the fish and the smoked version, because salmon is good for you. But a bit of reading told me organic farmed salmon is scarcely better than the standard stuff in environmental terms.

I use cans of wild Pacific salmon in some Jack Monroe recipes, which are generally excellent.

I realize this craic is a luxury on my part, that there are parents struggling to feed a family for whom these considerations are entirely beside the point. Cheap protein is the world’s biggest issue. I have no answer.

Perhaps paradoxically, I like to buy (organic) offal, because I love anything with proper flavour and because every bit of an animal, if you slaughter it, should be eaten. I often get chicken hearts in Thursday’s farmers market. Cheap as chips and delicious. And I am your massive arty farty clichĂ©, happily so, a big admirer of HF-W. His books on meat and fish cookery are the best I know.

I don’t think that’s paradoxical at all. It’s the way it genuinely has to be. The same way that also dictates if you use dairy products, you owe it to the animals to eat veal. Agree with you on Hugh Fearlessy Eatsitall. He is a personal hero on the meat and fish front, as is Nigel Slater on the fruit and veg side. Slater’s books are beautifully written. Tender Volumes 1 and 2 were the first time I read and re-read the introduction to a cookery book.

Yep
 Yeah
 Yes


Entirely agree.

For starters, agree entirely about veal. All or nothing. Veal, per se, does nothing for me. Bland out – but some people fetishize texture. But calves liver with sage leaves
 Ah now
 The business.

HF-W and NS


I learned to cook from NS


Veal is disgusting stuff.

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Well, in the crates, for sure.

You can buy veal not in that category. As I very occasionally do.

It’s horrible slimy stuff to eat. It’s also a vile practice imo.

I am not mad about veal per se. Not that I ever ate it much
 I do like calf liver.

You can buy so called ‘ethical veal’. And rosĂ© veal.

But, to be honest, if I never ate veal in any form again, what of it


Veal is a byproduct of the dairy industry. If you think eating veal is vile, you should also avoid all dairy products.

Not tying the poor little things in a cage so they can’t move.

Their spells were vain. The hags return’d
To the Queen in sorrowful mood,
Crying that witches have no power,
Where there is Rown-Tree wood.

Did your old man ever use a Larson trap? A great yoke for the crows and magpies.

No, I don"t think he has. Must say it to him.

It’s a master yoke for dealing with excess corvids

I will definitely look into it, thanks.

My parents are mad about birds and have a lot of feeders around the house. For the first time, two woodpeckers started coming around this spring. I believe they are on the increase in Ireland.

Anyhow, their appearance was a great novelty, until a bit of research disclosed they are terrors, same as magpies, for eating other birds’ eggs and chicks. So there is a bit of ambivalence about them now.

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Would the Larson trap resemble a laundry basket by any chance. If so then we have considerable experience in this system. The heady days of TFK
 Time flies.

Neighbour of mine catches magpies. He’s one fat fucker in the middle, in a sort of inner cage, that he feeds. The others then see him ateing and enter but can’t leave. He leaves them for the fox then.

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Wish to fuck someone could finish off the 30 plus crows we have all around us each and every morning ( urban)
Noise is awful-but no wonder the whures are omnipresent-absolute cretics feeding them regularly instead of dumping their shit in the bin they put chicken carcasses and bread etc out fir the bastards