[QUOTE=āThe Scouse Cafu, post: 995106, member: 2660ā]It isnāt really, mate.
Itās just carryharry and yourself acting the tool.[/QUOTE]
The treatment of Harry here is akin to the Israelis actions on Gaza. Its that serious.
Some seriously pathetic stuff on this thread from mbb, harry and Julio, just the type of lads whoād read the odd Ian O Doherty coulmn and think their clued in
And climate change. You forgot climate change.
Iām extremely clued in mate. Iāve read more on the history of the region than most if not all here.
In case anyone thinks Iām on the side of Israel in this Iām not. Not at all. If you read back in this thread Iām clearly anti Israel.
I merely pointed out to Kev the futility of throwing away tools he had already paid for, and that people like you who are currently āoutragedā will have forgotten all about it a week after a ceasefire is declared.
I may be wrong on that Laz, maybe you can keep us abreast in here of all the protests etc, you attend over the next few years.
You seem confused. I am against Israels treatment of Palestinians. Donāt confuse my amusement at a simpleton like @caoimhaoin[/USER]'s actions with that. Dumping those tools is the stupidest thing Iāve read on here in a while, which is some going given [USER=1616]@Beautiful Cityās contributions to the site.
ah look FFS obviously i dont agree with the murder of people, if you read my posts around page 23 of this thread you will see how sickened i am at the deaths in Gaza, i find it disgusting and horrific and it cannot be justified.
What i am bamboozled with is how people pick their cause, i am not saying just beacuse Assad gassed a load of kids makes it right for the IDF to shell an area containing a hospital THAT THEY KNEW , YES KNEW CHILDREN WERE THERE, this is as bad as any suicide bomber or rocket that is sent from Gaza IMO regardless whether if the hospital was being used as a launch site or not
i am just fascinated as to why the protest movement arent also out protesting against Syria for the last 3 years, against what happened in Egypt, against what happened those lads in the video i posted , against what happened to the christians in Mosul, against what Assad did to the 2,000 Palestinian refugees last Feburary, why wasnt there a flotilla to Syriaā¦ can anyone tell me, im only asking?
yet when the US intervened against the Taliban, against Sadam you had mass protestsā¦ stop the war, etcā¦ the same will happen in syria, i never once saw a protest for example against Al Qauda bombings in Iraqā¦ maybe its small man in us all that wants to stand up against the big bully boythe west and israel? The IPSC were having a horn about the āArab Springā and Tahir Square and āArab Nationalismāā¦ completely oblivious to the fact the cunts who ousted Mubarak were committing mass murderā¦
The boycott israel thing is also bizarre, if you really want to do something get down outside PC world or a jewellers, but then again i suppose these products imapct us all, why would anyone want to protest
i fucking despair for humanity at times
[QUOTE=āJulio Geordio, post: 995144, member: 332ā]It is almost inevitable that there will be a huge Muslim v the rest fight in the coming twenty years.
If these ISIS boys can in fact establish a state, and become a focal point for Muslims around them, they may be the catalyst to bring it to fruition, presumably with a war against Israel. They have fuck all chance as it stands, but if they really got momentum and got going youād never know.
The Muslim World is seething with Egypt for standing by and doing nothing as this went on. Hamas were allies of the Islamic Brotherhood that the Egyptians overthrew and as such Egypt sees them as enemies as well. They are now being accused of being US lackies, which is probably a fair statement. Traditionally Egypt have positioned themselves as the focal point for Muslims (prior to them it was the Ottoman Empire) but there is a potential vacuum now that ISIS could exploit.
Its a weird concept for us to understand but Muslims believe in a super Muslim state as part of their religion and as such would have no issue dropping their national states (most of which are relatively recent anyway) or at least allowing their states to be subsumed into some federation of sorts.
*I realise Iāve used some pretty sweeping generalisations about āMuslimsā above which are obviously not true of many of them.[/QUOTE]
biggest Muslim population is Indonesia which seems largely peaceful but there are terrorist activities
When you see radicalisation of people who have grown up in the UK though and some of the tensions in Birmingham there seems an inevitability that there are going to be increased flash points
[QUOTE=āJulio Geordio, post: 995168, member: 332ā]Iām extremely clued in mate. Iāve read more on the history of the region than most if not all here.
In case anyone thinks Iām on the side of Israel in this Iām not. Not at all. If you read back in this thread Iām clearly anti Israel.
I merely pointed out to Kev the futility of throwing away tools he had already paid for, and that people like you who are currently āoutragedā will have forgotten all about it a week after a ceasefire is declared.
I may be wrong on that Laz, maybe you can keep us abreast in here of all the protests etc, you attend over the next few years.[/QUOTE]
Why have you the word outraged in quotation marks? Where/when was it used? Someone as well read as yourself should not be going round making stuff up
[QUOTE=āTheUlteriorMotive, post: 995175, member: 2272ā]biggest Muslim population is Indonesia which seems largely peaceful but there are terrorist activities
When you see radicalisation of people who have grown up in the UK though and some of the tensions in Birmingham there seems an inevitability that there are going to be increased flash points[/QUOTE]
That is the most interesting aspect of it alright. Germany, France, UK & to a lesser extent the US have these huge Muslim populations within their borders that are not integrating at all.
Great response mate. If you imagine someone saying outraged while using air quotes, youāll get the idea of what I was trying to get across.
carryharry is and always will be a supercillious prick
[QUOTE=āJulio Geordio, post: 995144, member: 332ā]It is almost inevitable that there will be a huge Muslim v the rest fight in the coming twenty years.
If these ISIS boys can in fact establish a state, and become a focal point for Muslims around them, they may be the catalyst to bring it to fruition, presumably with a war against Israel. They have fuck all chance as it stands, but if they really got momentum and got going youād never know.
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Who is going to recognise ISIS/ISIL as a state? They represent a significant threat locally to Turkey, Israel, Jordan, Lebanon, Iraq & Iran and the Kurds. Their allies are in Qatar & Saudi on grounds of a common branch of Sunni Islam. However that also means they should have significant enemies in the region and it comes down to the US picking the correct proxy while not destabilising Saudi & Qatar. What are the odds?
Iām fascinated as to why those that support Israel arenāt also out supporting Assad, Saudi Arabia, ISIS etc.
Why stop at supporting one murderous bunch of Middle Eastern tyrants?
Why pick and choose?
[QUOTE=āThe Scouse Cafu, post: 995187, member: 2660ā]Iām fascinated as to why those that support Israel arenāt also out supporting Assad, Saudi Arabia, ISIS etc.
Why stop at supporting one murderous bunch of Middle Eastern tyrants?
Why pick and choose?[/QUOTE]
I suppose they feel that if you are going to pick a side, pick the one that rules the world.
[QUOTE=āThe Scouse Cafu, post: 995187, member: 2660ā]Iām fascinated as to why those that support Israel arenāt also out supporting Assad, Saudi Arabia, ISIS etc.
Why stop at supporting one murderous bunch of Middle Eastern tyrants?
Why pick and choose?[/QUOTE]
what about those of us who just support peace and quiet, are we to pick and choose as well?
[QUOTE=āThe Scouse Cafu, post: 995187, member: 2660ā]Iām fascinated as to why those that support Israel arenāt also out supporting Assad, Saudi Arabia, ISIS etc.
Why stop at supporting one murderous bunch of Middle Eastern tyrants?
Why pick and choose?[/QUOTE]
is it possible to support the actions of the IDF and Hamas?
what you favourite suicide bombing sid? , surely the pizza restauraunt suicide attack in Jerusalem must be up there in 2001?
Glad youāre being consistent in supporting both peace and quiet. Thatās a logical position.
However supporting Israel and not the Syrian regime, the Saudi regime and ISIS is like supporting peace and loud noise, or murder and quiet. It doesnāt make any sense.
[QUOTE=āThe Scouse Cafu, post: 995194, member: 2660ā]Glad youāre being consistent in supporting both peace and quiet. Thatās a logical position.
However supporting Israel and not the Syrian regime, the Saudi regime and ISIS is like supporting peace and loud noise, or murder and quiet. It doesnāt make any sense.[/QUOTE]
of course i support Israel and its right to exsist, i live in the state, what i dont support is the actions of itās government in dealing with terrorism despite continual rocket fire
[QUOTE=āThe Scouse Cafu, post: 995194, member: 2660ā]Glad youāre being consistent in supporting both peace and quiet. Thatās a logical position.
However supporting Israel and not the Syrian regime, the Saudi regime and ISIS is like supporting peace and loud noise, or murder and quiet. It doesnāt make any sense.[/QUOTE]
would you protest against Assad sid? surely gassing a load of kids was a new low?
[QUOTE=āmickee321, post: 995191, member: 367ā]is it possible to support the actions of the IDF and Hamas?
what you favourite suicide bombing sid? , surely the pizza restauraunt suicide attack in Jerusalem must be up there in 2001?[/QUOTE]
Probably the Bali bombings as they killed a load of Australians.