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Looking quite likely that this Turkey attack was revenge for the Russians bombing isis oil tankers which were intended for turkey

#turkey_isis_oil_business

@ProjectX has this all figured out lads. While you’ve all been fannying about reading Danny Boyle Guardian articles and researching the Camibrian War, he’s nailed it. We need to get this guy’s voice out there. He needs to be heard.

President Putin is preparing a statement.

Would defending your own air space be considered an attack?

Time to sort out Turkey too. A isis nest of vipers.

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*Frankie Boyle.
**Crimean War.

Looks like the plane was shot down over Syria.

We don’t know if that was Turkish airspace.

WWIII could be about to commence.

Ah Julio :laughing:

Coming soon to a theatre near you WWIII, featuring a Russian Jet as Franz Ferdinand

Where did the plane go down? If it’s on the Syrian side of the border it will be a very bad look for the Turks.

It went down in Syria… Some fucking shite all the same, all that will come out of this is more innocents dying.

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With Guest vocal by Assad on Take Me Out

So to recap what we know.
A plane was shot down and crash landed in Syria.
The Turks say they shot it down with an F-16 after repeated warnings that it was infringing their airspace. They say they can prove jet was in their airspace.
The Russians say they were most likely shot down by a surface to air missile, possibly by rebels. They say they were not in Turkish airspace and can prove same.
Neither side can be considered a reliable source.

The best description for this situation would have to be;
#fluid

The Russians have been bombing Syrian Turkmen who are on the Syrian/Turkey border and the Turks are seething over it. They had warned the Russian ambassador as recently as last week that they would not tolerate continued bombing of the Turkmen.

I’m going to hazard a guess that the Russian plane was after a Turkmen raid and the Turks blew that sucker out of the sky. I’d say that the Russians entered Turkish airspace briefly but the Turks chased them into Syrian airspace before shooting them down.

In and of itself a border incident doesn’t have to mean anything if the parties don’t want it to. They happen all the time in war. Unless the Russians decide to start making noise about Turkish support for ISIS then it’s unlikely much will come of it. Would be funny if they did. Very embarrassing for the Yanks, even if they’re fully aware of it.

The deputy speaker of Russia’s parliament, and a member of its international affairs committee, accused Turkey of supporting Islamic State [Isis] and shooting down the Russian plane over Syria, writes Shaun Walker.

In response, he suggested that Russia should cancel flights to Turkey and evacuate all its citizens. Nikolai Levichev compared the attack to the bombing of a Russian Airbus over Sinai last month, apparently carried out by ISIS. The attack killed all 224 people on board and led to the cancellation of all flights between Russia and Egypt.

As individual politicians continue to speculate on the response, the real clues as to how aggressively Russia will react are likely to come only when we have heard Vladimir Putin speak.

Unconfirmed pictures circulating purportedly showing one of the pilots is dead.

http://twitter.com/cctvnews/status/669108567379570688/photo/1

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Oh, this is very bad news.

Upcoming: NATO will hold an extraordinary meeting of the North Atlantic Council at 5pm Brussels time (11am ET) on request of Turkey

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