Ireland politics (Part 2)

There’s no way it will make any economic sense to do these retro fits but people should be prepared to do their bit to make the world habitable for their grandkids. It can’t all be about nickels and dimes.

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Just worked out what we spent on ā€˜retro’ fitting since we moved Windows €8.5k stove €2.5k attic insulation €1.5k some floors were suspended so had to be filled in €2.5k new heating system (not air to water) €10k. All of it out of released equity in the old house sale. They had pumped the outer walls around 10 years ago so didn’t have to do that. That €25k would probably cost north of €30k now.

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The 2.5k for heating isn’t bad. I paid 1700 about 10 years ago

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It’ll be worth it to retrofit when there’s no fuel to heat your home - that 1k a year saving could be 5k a year quick enough

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There is no way insulating an attic will drop your heating bill by 400 quid.

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On Planet Eamon it does

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The SEAI says the figures are from October. The cost of materials has gone up 4 times since then which is about a 17% increase. It’ll only get worse as for any materials that are silicone based or oil based.

thanks

I need the breakdown of the 50k please & then for each item i need to see where the increase is

Had a look at doing the deep retrofit a couple of years ago. Even with an approved contractor there was an outside chance it wouldn’t be approved and you’d have to cover the full cost. It made a mortgage application seem like filling in a club lotto ticket.

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Ask Eamon for the breakdown of the 50k.

This is all that was given in the example.

Just an FYI Eamon walked with my kids to school this morning finally cc the selfish G

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People are happy to bang on about price increases of insulation, without mentioning price increases of electricity/gas/oil etc.

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He knows full well what he’s talking about, unlike the idiots whose brainchild this is.

Absolutely nobody on an average wage is going to get involved in this scheme. It’s a waste of time retro fitting old houses unless you’ve bought one and are doing it up.Upper middle class people who drive electric cars will have their retro fitting subsidised by everyone else.

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The poorest get 100% of the cost
Some people will choose to do one or two things where they get 80% paid
Others will go for the deep retrofit

Its is subsidized by people who pollute as its 100% paid for by the carbon tax

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It’ll drive value to house owners over renters so it’s not all bad.

It’ll also mean private landlords exit the market as costs will be prohibitive to bring up rental properties to required energy rating.

If we’ve learned anything from last 25 years it’s that swinging high level government initiatives in housing are very bit Butterfly wings

Get rid of the Sky Sports package, wire in @Copper_pipe lad and there’s your €83 pm saving.
Buy an additional overcoat.

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The UK energy companies sent out a pair of thick socks to their customers to help with winter. These millennials prancing around with no socks and their hands out to the taxpayer looking for money for heating :man_shrugging:

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My point zackley……last night I said to herself ā€œbetter put on your coatā€
We going out says she? No says I - I am - and I’m turning off the heat.

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The biggest benefit of this will be first time buyers who can’t afford a new build or a second hand house in turn key condition. They can buy an affordable old run down house now and spend north of 100k bringing up the condition and hope the government pay the guts of half it. As I said to my father would he be interested in doing up the home place a bit as it’s about 100yrs old and could do with moving up a few BER ratings, but he said he can’t afford it. Sure he’s a retired pensioner with his family reared. He doesn’t have 50 or 100k to put into something.

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