Ireland politics (Part 2)

Why?

No there was definitely the concept of sex changes before the internet.

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Future generations will look back on it the way we look at lobotomies now and be appalled by what was left happen. I often thought if someone as powerful as Joseph Kennedy was influenced in getting his daughter Rose lobotomised, it illustrates the harm that can be caused when people ā€œjust go alongā€ with the prevailing narrative. Fast forward to 2023 we now have genital mulitation. And thats exactly what it is, only dressed up as gender affirming care. Anyone that I know with young children are terrified of whats happening in our society and they are not all on the internet searching right wing accounts.

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Youā€™ll have to ask the governmentā€¦ Iā€™ve seen online that a few special advisors to government on gender issues were outed as being extremely radical pro gender warriorsā€¦ the kind that believe 12 year olds can be pumped full of hormones and have life changing operations without parental consent as you can get in US/Canada currently. Thatā€™s the tide weā€™re up against. As the article above points to, thereā€™s a certain amount of lobbying and self-interest groups informing government on these issues alsoā€¦

All the same shite that weā€™ve seen elsewhere with catastrophic consequences.

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Aside from the ideological argument laws like these are a complete waste of police resources. Another excuse for the Gardai to avoid real danger and real crime when they calling to the house of someone who called his neighbor a bad word.

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Iā€™m extremely worried to be honestā€¦ You can see whatā€™s coming.

The sad thing is the ideology does little to help genuine sufferers of gender dysphoria.

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That seems mad. In relation to transgenderism? Do they think trans people are the new Catholic church or something?

You literally havenā€™t a clue what youre talking about.

I literally donā€™t. Iā€™ve no idea why all the people with small children that @johnnysachs knows are terrified about whatā€™s happening in our society.

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Thereā€™s loads and loads of information out there for you to read on it. Do it quickly before it becomes an offence.

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It also creates new aggravated forms of certain existing criminal offences, where those offences are motivated by hatred of a protected characteristic.

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I believe TRANSubstantiation is in Catholic church doctrine alright pal. I dont believe the host had to be pumped full of puberty blockers before being disseminated to the masses though.

Loads and load of information on the people that johnnysachs knows with small kids?

What is it that all these people are scared about that youā€™re on about?

Iā€™m sure that was amusing as it ran through your head.

You seem to be having difficulty following the discussion.

I think thatā€™s you pal. I insisted you hadnā€™t a clue what youā€™re talking about and we worked from thereā€¦ Do keep up.

Sex change isnā€™t gender ideology. Back then it would have been gender identity disorder in DSM Iā€™ve.

If one can change gender on a whim then why not race or species?

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Why is that relevant?

It is not uncommon for people to talk about their kids with friends, family, work colleagues despite your sneery tone here. Do you have kids yourself?

As I posted on here before there are even work based employee resource groups for carers and/or parents. There is a group of 15 parents (mostly female) in my work place. A wide range of topics are discussed from child development, to getting their children to eat vegetables, schooling etc. There are some louder voises than others who donā€™t want gender ideology foisted on their kids. Others will be a bit quieter but just nod along. By and large Iā€™d say nearly all of them would be of same mindset. Confusion and social contagion would probably be 2 of main concerns. Its only 1 of a 100 different things that are discussed but its safe to say that no rightminded parent wants this.