Ireland politics (Part 2)

He brought down the last dail term didnt he?

Will Simon last longer than Liz Truss (Brian Clough)

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Earlier on, @Heyyoubehindthebushes correctly alluded to the fact that Harris would either have to face a leadership contest in opposition or go into government with SF.

Could it be that Harris would countenance governing with them? Varadkar had given a hostage to fortune by ruling it our in perpetuity and Simon Coveney regularly railed against them also.

Maybe the unthinkable is quite thinkable after all?

ā€˜In the national interestā€™

Are we on the way back?

All members are equal but some members are more equal than others.

Martin did a great job with the National Cancer Control Programme. It really advanced our treatments in this area to a fairly world class standard.

The only way to become a notionally successful health minister in Ireland is to empire build like that.

It is a money pit and will be until we decouple direct State spending.

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A cunt elected by a small cabal of cunts a third of which are hightailing out the door before the next election.

Cunts.

A Pascal/ MacNeill double ticket would have been a solid FG option.

Pascal is completely inoffensive. He is widely respected as knowing what he is doing without the private school jab or extra lifestyle.

MacNeill is a bulldog and appeals to the Middle Class audience who hate Sinn FĆ©in.

Harris is a politician of the age though. He is robotic enough to sustain the social media barbs that most couldnā€™t be arsed with.

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A lot of cunts shiting on about Simon Coveney. Heā€™s a dope who has achieved nothing and only is where he is because he is a scion of a self perpetuating family of Cork merchant princes.

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Going into government with SF would destroy FG.

They have no incentive to do it.

SF are the old FF without the parish pump. Theyll be a useless shower in goverment as they also have been a useless opposition

So why would FG go in with them?

FG should sit back and hope things implode again and they can tell everyone ā€œI told you soā€.

They want to be in opposition next time around.
Theyā€™ll tank the next election.

A general election is needed asap.

You canā€™t have an unelected taoiseach.

It says it all when Covenay, Donohue and McIntee etc had no interest in the role.

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When you say ā€œimplode again ā€œ what exactly do you mean? You surely donā€™t want us to tank like we did between 08 and 11

I agree with you but the Taoiseach is elected by the Dail, Haughey, Albert, Bruton, Cowen and Leo all became Taoiseach not in the aftermath of a GE. In any case Harris will serve the shortest term of any Taoiseach to date.

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As an aside, I was driving home earlier and had RTE Radio 1 on, which would be unusual.

Patrick Oā€™Donovan was out to bat for Harris. It was absolutely embarassing. He was asked what qualities does he have and all Oā€™Donovan could advise was to Harris wanting to do it all himself. Heā€™ll be delegating this time though. Childrens hospital overspend was mentioned which is an embarassing legacy for Harris too. Oā€™Donovan then advised that he has unbelievable energy. He could make it from Mayo or Galway to Limerick in one day.

Oā€™Donovan actually spoke like a child. Referenced families being like political parties and sometimes fall out over bringing out the bins.

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A GE is not in fgs best interests right now. Itā€™s turning out very similar to the UK. They want to drag it out in the hope that the political landscape will turn for them. Assuming ff donā€™t pull the plug, fg will drag this out to full term now.

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O Donnovan is a complete simpleton

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