Ireland politics (Part 2)

[Massey]

Himself and Tubbs could have been twins separated at birth.Theyre not adopted are they?

[tazdedub]

[binkybarnes]

https://twitter.com/Independent_ie/status/1772141362609045863?t=ksKd7kmSGsjG6F-JHyjF9g&s=19

I don’t think Nina is going to tear up too many scripts by the sound of things.

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

@glasagusban

Agree with most of that. On looks, hasn’t he a long term illness that must affect somewhat. On your final para I think you’re a bit unfair on saying he’ll be dying to put a stamp on things for his own ego. He’s being parachuted in to save the party and will be under pressure from them to show a different focus or energy or emphasis I a very short time frame that is going to save them in the upcoming election.

within in the confines of the PFG, he will be stunted - i would assume a lot of bluster to his base will be spouted

[Tim_Riggins]

Harris was popular during Covid, like it or not.

I think we forget that the best FG could come up with a lot more TDs back in the day was Enda Kenny.

There isn’t a lot of talent out there generally, particularly for a small country with so many political parties.

Labour went for serial loser Ivana ffs, not that @Juhniallio would mention that….

I don’t think any of the current leaders are particularly impressive. Martin has the most experience but I think he will step away pre election.

[Juhniallio]

@Tim_Riggins

Harris was popular during Covid, like it or not.

I think we forget that the best FG could come up with a lot more TDs back in the day was Enda Kenny.

There isn’t a lot of talent out there generally, particularly for a small country with so many political parties.

Labour went for serial loser Ivana ffs, not that @Juhniallio would mention that….

I don’t think any of the current leaders are particularly impressive. Martin has the most experience but I think he will step away pre election.

Ok mate. I understand that it hurts and you’re lashing out. Let’s see how he goes.
We can have an argument about Ivana later if you want.

[Tim_Riggins]

Hurts what?

Nothing will change in Irish politics until there is a PD 2.0 that is genuinely centre right. It’s rearranging the deck chairs between FG, FF, Labour, the SDs and SF in fiscal terms- a couple of them more dangerous that others in terms of our economic strength.

I’m just stating facts. I think Cairns is likeable with potential but is young and doesn’t impress when things go beyond a question on any topic.

Mary Lou is being found out.

Ivana is a poor leader and Labour would have been better off with Aodhan.

It’s a good chance for Martin but as I said I don’t think he’ll stick it out.

I’ll likely vote Green.

[Juhniallio]

Hurts to see the great ff hope look like he’ll be shit before he even starts. It’s like watching utd then seeing antony is about to come on.

In all seriousness, have you had any dealings with him btw? Is he actually a decent fella or have you ever seen him work very well? Genuine question.

[Tim_Riggins]

I’m not sure he is a great FG hope.

Varadkar certainly was and failed to deliver (electorally at the very least).

I’ve never encountered Harris and wouldn’t be impressed by him. My understanding is that Harris became a bit of a Zero Covider behind the scenes which I was not a fan of.

He seemed to have been fairly active in the Higher Education brief which I’d have personally viewed as a junior ministry.

[Tim_Riggins]

One thing I’ll say is that the expectations aren’t actually that high anymore.

We are a long way from a party getting 70+ seats.

Fine Gael potentially could have gotten an overall majority in 2011 but ended up with 70+.

They dropping to 50 and then the 2020 one were shocks. They thought Varadkar could get them back closer to towards 60.

If FF and FG both got back to 40 I’d say both would be very happy. So in that sense there isn’t some massive comeback needed.

I mean this in old money Dáil seats btw, I know it is about to expand.

[maroonandwhite]

@glasagusban

He’s being parachuted in to save the party

What???

[TheUlteriorMotive]

Harris is a disaster of an appointment and FG are going to be fucked in next GE.

The rise of the independents share of vote to 17 per cent in recent is concerning if we want a stable government.

FF with a new dynamic leader (if one exists) could do better than expected in next election but they most likely will leave Martin there and underperform

SF and FF seem only likely government now with a mix of Independents.

[artfoley]

@glasagusban

He’s being parachuted in to save the party

theyd be better off making sure the chute doesnt open if thats the case

[caulifloweredneanderthal]

@Tim_Riggins

seemed to have been fairly active in the Higher Education brief which I’d have personally viewed as a junior ministry.

He wasn’t too hot in that portfolio either

[johnnysachs]

Harris likes the power but not the responsibilities that come with it. Once the dust settles he will be very much exposed. FG probably have a floor nationally at 15% but their policies have disenfranchised farmers, Gardaí and a lot of their core rural base so interesting times ahead.

[Massey]

@TheUlteriorMotive

SF and FF seem only likely government now with a mix of Independents.

Correct but Meehole will not be leading FF

[mikehunt]

@Cheasty

Mucksavages have the reverse tick where they substitute Ds for Ts (Old Traffort, Wimpleton)

[Kyle]

[Appendage]

Politics is funny to watch.

It’s amusing to see the lower ranks flanking the speaker when he or she is doing an interview. Purporting to support the speaker but in reality posturing for profile.

Then there is the cat and mouse with the media. Some who are in the inner circle and others who are not.

All a big game with power the main objective at all times.

[tazdedub]

@johnnysachs

Harris likes the power but not the responsibilities that come with it.

Don’t they all.