Ireland politics (Part 2)

We need to back to a 1980s economy to encourage people to pursue careers in the EU again.

nothing so drastic is required. just make it a more attractive option and put as much resources into training course for SNEs, how to succeed at EU interviews etc and take the hit for a few without costs posts.

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Is there even a smidgin of doubt that if we send over our two most vociferously anti-establishment mandarins in @glasagusban and @artfoley that we’ll end up holding the whip hand in no time at all?

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Some fellas don’t like democracy

Meltdown in the comments here as well

https://twitter.com/oconnellhugh/status/1837636185495048693?s=46&t=hy6wc4bLZMiyfotc20UniQ

You have to think Sinn Fein made a huge mistake not forming a government when they had the chance

Rise of the headbangers fucked SF,
That was their base vote

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Greens to be wiped out

https://twitter.com/pollstoseats/status/1837650364289765471?s=46&t=K27wQ5SlUD1o1nD3wyFPgA

Until the next time :man_shrugging:

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I still think FF and FG will end on similar enough seat totals.

SF could well lose seats at this stage even though the DĂĄil will have 14 extra seats.

A problem not talked about with them is the huge disparity in vote % they got in some places.

In Dublin that ranged from 9.6% to 44% depending on the Constituency. It’s a pretty incredible range really. Their range will likely narrow and that is no good to them when they are transfer repellant.

SF are getting their dinner eaten in “working class” areas and that’s why MLMD is going around talking about throwing Apple money into those areas.

Where are the second seats going to come from that they needed to grow? Based on their existing %, it is highly likely they lose the likes of Dublin Bay South.

Why is ‘working class’ in inverted comments like ‘miguel’?

As it is the best way to describe certain areas historically but the concept is not what it once was.

5 years of Daly and Wallace over there hardly helped us.

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Why is the concept not what it once was? The vast majority are still working class people id imagine. There were always those who didn’t want to work or were involved in crime etc.

Most areas are more mixed now. Part V housing changes the dynamic and so too does tenant purchases of social houses. Clearly there are areas with more of a dominance of one over the other but not what it once was.

It also depends on who goes out to vote. So in somewhere like the Pembroke Ward you would have Chris Andrews doing very well in old flat complexes etc, but somewhere like Ringsend is actually far more mixed than what it was. Lots of tech workers both renting and who have bought- although they may not necessarily vote. Someone showed a stat on Dublin Central where a lot of the residents simply don’t vote, as they are often foreign.

So that’s why I don’t speak in absolutes about an area.

That’s probably true to an extent but doesn’t really fit in with the context of where you originally used the phrase and the inverted commas.

Of course it does, I’ve just explained it. What are you trying to say here?

I thought you were looking down your nose on working class areas and referring to that group of people in a sarcastic manner.

Nope. And I literally just explained it. Try again.