Of course Putin is delighted to flood Europe with refugees because he knows he wonât have to work very hard to stir up chaos. The history of refugees fleeing anywhere pretty much always results in hatred against refugees in the places they end because human beings are fucking stupid and lazy and reach for the lazy narrative which confirms their biases and prejudices and indulges their imagined fears.
Irish people fleeing the famine faced it in America and Britain. We donât look at that as âoh, of course the Americans and the Presbyterians in the West Of Scotland and the people who put up the No Blacks No Dogs No Irish signs had âlegitimate grievancesâ against the Irish.â
We donât do that. We see it as the bigotry and racism it was.
Humans are stupid. They are easily manipulated. Very few have either the intelligence or the time to understand migration as an issue and the root causes as to why it exists. So lots of them just go âthose people are coming to rape us and take everything from us.â The message of hatred is always far simpler than the message of understanding, and far more readily taken up.
Immigration isnât a real issue. Immigration is a fact of life, it will never, ever stop. Fighting against it is like fighting the tide. Bigoted reaction to immigration is the issue.
Beyond that, governments should try and address the root causes of immigration. The number one way to do that would be for America to get its finger out and annihilate Russiaâs army and Putin and his regime in the way Israel is annihilating innocent people in Gaza and Lebanon and the Hamas and Hezbollah leadership with its support. They could easily do it. As long as these appalling choices are made in terms of foreign policy, you will have refugees. And even if good foreign policy choices were made and people have a chance to go back to Ukraine, migration is only going to increase.
The 19th century was the century of migration, the 20th century was the century of migration and the 21st century is going to be the century of migration on a far higher level again.
My advice: deal with it, or buy a time machine. Alex Jones is selling them on his website, you get a discount if you subscribe to his podcast.
Immigration as an âissueâ is like the âwelfare spongersâ issue. A fake, kick down issue designed to distract.
For years âwelfare spongersâ were demonised as THE PROBLEM. They were not the problem. They were a drop in the ocean.
There are a whole host of issues which might lead to a small minority of people becoming âwelfare spongersâ, if you want to use that horrible term, but nobody ever really cared about those issues. The problem was deemed to be almost a genetic one of a class of sub-humans that somehow existed, independent of any human agency, that were a plague like rats, and if only we could get rid of the rats, everything would be great.
Ireland has options when it comes to migration, the same way as Japan did. You want to deny this now because you know the substance of what you are saying is just waffle.
The far right will continue to flourish regardless of reality because reality doesnât matter now because DISINFORMATION. Youâre far better off actually standing the fuck up against them than giving in to them.
Why is everybody who claims to be a centrist liberal in the west such a lily livered weasel who has no other idea than giving in to what the far right wants?
A very quick look at history - and the present - will tell you that only makes them stronger.
Why canât we stand up to the far-right; particularly in terms of blockades/riots etc while at the same time doing a far better job of managing the immigration - reducing bad impacts on local communities? Thatâs seems an achievable and reasonable aim?
Do that and the mis-information that youâre so concerned about will have much less room to gain political traction
@Little_Lord_Fauntleroy whats the story with church gate collections for political parties? That craic seems anachronistic to me. To paraphrase Damien Dempsey, I was coming from the northside heading southbound down the Howth Road earlier & there was a Fianna FĂĄil collection at St Brigidâs Church, Killester. Deirdre Heney posters on the railings & lads in garish green Fianna FĂĄil branded rain jackets jangling the buckets. I was coming from the southside heading northbound up the Malahide Road a few weeks & spotted an AontĂș church gate collection at St Brendanâs Church, Coolock, too. Youâd think itâd be more appropriate to have charity collections & should the church be affiliated with political parties?
No, church gate collections are not allowed for political parties in Ireland.
Church gate collections are typically reserved for charitable organizations and causes, and there are strict regulations governing who can collect funds outside of churches. Political parties and candidates are prohibited from fundraising through church gate collections, as it could be seen as inappropriate and potentially coercive, given the sacred and community-oriented nature of the church setting. This is consistent with broader principles in Irish law that aim to keep political fundraising separate from religious institutions.
The regulation of church gate collections falls under local authorities, which typically require permits for such collections and specify the type of organizations that can apply. Political entities would not generally qualify for these permits.
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