Hes not eamonns nephew. That was just added in for increased outrage
Social media & itās availability to stupid people is a dangerous cocktail.
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Elected on multiple occasions and poll toppers.
Itās still bad form to take away local business and give to someone in Dublin who undoubtedly has a connection somewhere to someone. Itās how Ireland works and itās wrong
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Indeed but weāre both hanging around the Seanad for about 10 years after failed election attempts at either, or both, European and Dail elections.
Others that come to mind are John Paul Phelan and Malcolm Byrne.
Pearse Doherty spent no more than 3 years in the Seanad, certainly not ten. He first ran for Dail in 02 but definitely didnāt get Seanad gig back then, more than likely after 07 GE. He won a by election then the year before the 2011 one
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Doherty was elected as a councillor on his first attempt and had 3 unsuccessful attempts at general and European elections before being elected. He spent 3 years in the Seanad. He has been elected on four occasions since.
Cullinane has a similar path. Was an elected councillor, spent a term in the Seanad before he was elected on his 4th attempt at the Dail.
These are all fairly standard political career paths.
You clearly didnāt read what I asked which was
Politicians who:
- felt local level politics were beneath them
- had numerous failed attempts at European and general elections without ever getting elected
- have been hanging around the Seanad for multiple terms
Three unsuccessful attempts at election? Wow.
Take it up with @croppy_boy
Sounds like one of your heroes fits the bill of the type of politician you were attempting to criticise.
How ironic.
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I did, thatās why I included as a quote, which said:
There is a phenomenon of the long term Seanad seat holder like Fergal Quinn and Des Hanafin who never seemed bothered with a run at the DƔil.
Loads of the cunts listed here Records of members of the Oireachtas - Wikipedia
Decades? Hanging around the seanad like a bad smell? Wouldnāt or failed to cut their teeth at local politics. You listed two people that ticked none of those boxes. In fact you picked two politicians who romped up in their constituencies at the first count last time around.
You clearly didnāt read what I asking.
Another illiterate halfwit.
I think what heās saying is that they kept on trying to get elected and then they got elected and now he loves them but others who havenāt been elected shouldnāt keep on trying to get elected because they havenāt been elected yet. Or something
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Youāre very needy and out for a row today. I showed you the part of your post that I was referring to. I donāt know how I could be more explicit than that.
Cullinane didnāt get elected to the DĆ”il until 14 years after his first attempt, Doherty nine years later, John Paul Phelan was a similar timeframe to Doherty with a term more in the Seanad and an election defeat less - he didnāt run in 2002.
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The 3 you have mentioned would all be ācareerist politicians ā. FWIW that is a stupid term and means fuck all .
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@Fulvio_From_Aughnacloy has tied himself up in knots here.
Iām just pointing the fact you didnāt read what you were asked.
Cullinane has been an elected local rep since 2004.
He had one term in the Seanad.
He was elected to the Dail in 2016 and topped the poll in the 2020 election.
Compared to the likes of Bacik:
Who has never been elected in any general or European election she has ever contested
Has never ran for or been elected at local level
Has been a member of the Seanad now for 15 years without ever coming close to elected for a proper government.
You should read the question the next time.
Thereās definitely a legacy of long serving FF and FG Senators due the idiot Taoiseachās 11 rule in that House.
Canāt find it online but does anyone have any idea who was been involved in the most unsuccessful attempts to get elected to the DĆ”il?
Politicians nonetheless who have ran been successful in elections they have ran in and have been chosen by the electorate unlike others who have made a political career despite being rejected by the electorate at every turn.
Buddy Iāve told you twice and thatās what I included the part of the post that I was referring to. Thereās no need to have a hissy fit about it.
Weāre not arguing here.