Ivan Yates

[Mac]

@north county corncrake

i like the way that you need to analyse the argument at the start of each post
-i think its funny that you need to do that & i like the way you turn it into an attack on me but what you are basically saying is that you hope addicts lose at the expense of fat cat shareholders

We know that FOBTs are highly addictive - 2004 research in the UK by Gamcare found that the use of FOBTs among problem gamblers had escalated from 12% to 40%. We know that those affected most by problem gambling are the financially vulnerable working class (90% of members of Gamblers Anonymous). With over 1200 betting offices in the state the proliferation of the machines would be widespread, as would the associated social problems. Furthermore, as argued in the report of the Casino Committee, to mix ‘betting’ and ‘gaming’ is to creates enormous difficulties in implementing any system of regulation in the industry. Everyone concedes the industry must be effectively regulated in some form but the negative social implications outweighs yates lust for money

No that’s not what I’m basically saying but sure it seems that you won’t think any different anyway.

A report from 2004 is irrelevant given how much has changed in the last 6 years. In 2004 you couldn’t gamble online apart from backing horses, dogs & sports. Since online casinos and pokers exploded into popularity in the latter half of the last decade, the landscape has completely changed. It would be interesting to see what those stats would be if gamcare published a report this year about it and I’d be pretty sure the FOBTs problem gamblers would be down to single figure percentages.

[padjo]

What about online gambling Ncc, should it be restricted in a similar manner to the US. It obviously has the potential to be incredibly addictive and is accessible 24/7?
Personally I think those fixed point gambling machines or slot machines in general shouldn’t be let anywhere near this country

[KIB_man]

@Mac

I think its funny how you lose interest in something when someone is willing to try and seriously debate something with you and actually contradict your arguments without letting it get into the usual exchange of rolleyes and personal insults (not that they’re not amusing as well).

I’m not supporting FOBTS, I’m saying they are no worse than anything else everyone on the street has access to so I don’t think they’ll have the same “opium” impact in Ireland as they did in Australia as gambling has moved on a lot since 2001 or whatever year they came in over there (think it was 2001 in UK anyway). High street bookmakers are seeing less and less footfall through their shops and some are barely surviving. If things continue as they are this is going to result in shop closures meaning more people out of work and more people struggling to make ends meet. FOBTS would be one extra thing that might draw people into shops and keep some of the shops ticking over financially. Yes it will mean some gambling addicts are going to lose money but I would argue that they will lose it anyway regardless of whether it’s through a FOBT or not.

that argument is pretty retarded. Should we let people deal heroin too so it can keep the dole numbers down?

FOBTS are bad news. It is something I noticed in the UK quite a bit. Even when Cheltenham was on you could go into a bookies in central London and see a rake of Asian clobbering around these machines. Oz is a disgrace, bookies inside in pubs. There will be serious social problems down the road in Oz with gambling.

There could be an argument that a tax should be put on all online betting in Ireland to try and keep the people working in bookies in jobs but still that is the way the market is going. We cant halt change too much. Bookie shops are horrific places anyway filled with degenerates.

[anon95599269]

@padjo

What about online gambling Ncc, should it be restricted in a similar manner to the US. It obviously has the potential to be incredibly addictive and is accessible 24/7?
Personally I think those fixed point gambling machines or slot machines in general shouldn’t be let anywhere near this country

my points here relate to gaming not gambling

[Mac]

@KIB man

that argument is pretty retarded. Should we let people deal heroin too so it can keep the dole numbers down?

FOBTS are bad news. It is something I noticed in the UK quite a bit. Even when Cheltenham was on you could go into a bookies in central London and see a rake of Asian clobbering around these machines. Oz is a disgrace, bookies inside in pubs. There will be serious social problems down the road in Oz with gambling.

There could be an argument that a tax should be put on all online betting in Ireland to try and keep the people working in bookies in jobs but still that is the way the market is going. We cant halt change too much. Bookie shops are horrific places anyway filled with degenerates.

What? Are the heroin dealers all in PAYE jobs selling heroin? That’s one of the strangest comparisons I’ve ever heard.

[anon95599269]

@KIB man

that argument is pretty retarded. Should we let people deal heroin too so it can keep the dole numbers down?

FOBTS are bad news. It is something I noticed in the UK quite a bit. Even when Cheltenham was on you could go into a bookies in central London and see a rake of Asian clobbering around these machines. Oz is a disgrace, bookies inside in pubs. There will be serious social problems down the road in Oz with gambling.

There could be an argument that a tax should be put on all online betting in Ireland to try and keep the people working in bookies in jobs but still that is the way the market is going. We cant halt change too much. Bookie shops are horrific places anyway filled with degenerates.

of course fobts are bad news- all evidence proves this- no one wants then here apart from the fat cat bookmakers & their lackeys

[KIB_man]

@Mac

What? Are the heroin dealers all in PAYE jobs selling heroin? That’s one of the strangest comparisons I’ve ever heard.

I presume the hemp shops pay PAYE so if heroin was legal the state would make some revenue.

[Big_Dan_Campbell]

Mac will be gutted to hear that his hero is leaving Newstalk

[Mac]

@chewy louie

Mac will be gutted to hear that his hero is leaving Newstalk

Twas announced last week or the week before I believe. Next Friday is his last day.

[anon95599269]

NCC cleaned house on this thread

lets hope my next reincaration is more NCC and less TASE

[anon95599269]

@Mac

Twas announced last week or the week before I believe. Next Friday is his last day.

:rolleyes:

so so bitter

[Mac]

@The All Seeing Eye

:rolleyes:

so so bitter

Less bitter, more seething

[Rudi]

@north county corncrake

mac repositioning himself on this forum as the forelock tugging simpleton it seems

what about your hereos lust for money at the expense with his ill advised campaign for FOTBS

you are a disgrace mac - so fuckin what if he is an anglican- means fuck all to me & 99% of the people one here but you think it gives him gravitas & shows he is from good stock- that is reverse sectarianism you clown- big deal if he sorted you out with tickets for the leinster rogbee game last november- he is just buying your affection you stupid cunt

thankfully ive never met mac but the more he posts the more he reminds me of john hurts character in the field- a weasely fucker

pike= the bull
mac= the weasel

:lol:

[Watch_The_Break]

Good riddance

[Kid_Chocolate]

Where s he going?

[Watch_The_Break]

@Kid Chocolate

Where s he going?

For a swim in his debt

[Kid_Chocolate]

Had to leave because of the bankruptcy ?

[KIB_man]

Mac was seething when the company was placed in administration (what do administrators known about running betting shops, Yatesy will turn it around etc etc). He must be in bits altogether today.

[Juhniallio]

Yates is a fair reflection of how fucked this country is. His “banter” is indicative of the country we are. Fucked. Wrong. But shouting the odds in an entertaining way. His appaling tipping for cheltenham followed by barefaced lies on what he actually tipped was hilarious.

[KinvarasPassion]

I couldn’t give 2 ends of fcuk what Yates gets upto outside of his job on Newstalk. He kept me entertained in the mornings travelling to work and he’ll be missed. His first few broadcasts were filling in on the Right Hook and boy was he green.

His sharpened up quite quickly though and took the blandness outta talk radio. It’s lightly Coleman will get the gig… Jesus, Donoghue and Coleman, how fleming boring is that going to be.