Jeremy Corbyn he's in the SA

I have a problem with open borders, if it’s not what a country desires.
Do you agree with the EU controlling immigration from outside the EU?

Do you agree with the EU controlling immigration from outside the EU?

The EU doesn’t control immigration from non-EU countries

Individual countries make their own rules

Personally I would like to see us take a lot more Iraqi ex-pats

A stronger hurling championship might be one of the many benefits

Do you agree with Ireland or the UK for example controlling immigration from outside the EU?

It’s beginning to sound like you are now against open borders, what a turnaround.

This is a classic example of the delusional left. Supporting ideas that sound wonderful until they are questioned, and then being tied up in knots trying to argue out of the corner they’ve painted themselves into.

A bit like Elizabeth Warren and her get rid of private insurance idea. Sounds wonderful until you reflect on the outcome, and the fact that most people don’t want it. It’s the main reason the left makes no progress.

Non-EU countries have the right to make their own immigration rules

The problem with so called “debates” on immigration is they always end up being a transsparent tool with which to whip up naked racism

The so called “debates” on immigration in the UK and the USA have been exactly that

Anti-immigrationists pretty much always turn out to be sneaking regarders for fascism at best, which is why you get the utterly barbaric treatment currently being meted out to people at the southern border of the USA and in the concentration camps there, see also the Windrush scandal in the UK and the huge rise in racist hate crime

It should never be forgotten that the USA inflicted the gang problem on Central American countries and has a moral duty to take in people fleeing it

To be fair, mate, your understanding of this topic is so utterly infantile and free of any nuance whatsoever that I feel it’s pointless to continue

That is because it’s obvious all of your opinions on this subject are gleaned from right-wing US publications which are little more than hate speech

A national health service is a fantastic idea

It’s also very practical and much more cost effective than the idiotic models the USA has used

It’s absolutely deluded to think otherwise

Getting rid of health insurance is a great idea - why should people with less money have less access to essential healthcare than people with a lot of money?

It would take years to implement and bring the public service up to scratch but it’s a thoroughly laudable idea

Thanks for confirming you are against open borders, and support individual country’s right to control immigration.

Have a good night.

Another thumping for you, mate :grin:

Tough going being you on this forum

How many people in Ireland do you think would be willing to give up their VHI or other private insurance and go on the HSE?

It’s a delusional idea and Warren will fail to get the nomination based on it.

Most people who have private health insurance are not rich or have “lots of money”, they are normal working people. 50% of Americans have a heath plan through their work and subsidized by their employers. They are not going to give that up based on a promise from politicians to look after them.

Also, poor people are not denied essential health care. People on low income are on Medicaid, which is free.

Hitler was an awful man for boards.ie

If we had a public healthcare system that was actually fit for purpose, everybody, I’d say

The UK has a public healthcare system and they still have private health insurance too so I’d say you don’t have much to worry about though

The NHS of course is always held up as a socialist bogeyman in the US, despite being infinitely superior than the US health system even against a backdrop of savage Tory attacks on it

But that’s the sort of insane right-wing discourse in the USA that makes any attempt to debate with a Republican supporter utterly futile

It’s like debating with a person from a far off planet

Of course in the USA when the ACA tried to bring everybody into the health insurance net, the Republicans screamed blue murder like the mentalists they are - it was a modest attempt to introduce change which actually came straight from Mitt Romney

Unfortunately the prevailing ethos among Republicans today is that healthcare is a privilege which should only be granted to those with lots of money

It’s just one more element of the all-encompassing kleptocracy they advocate

The US health care system is vastly superior to the NHS, and the great majority of people in the US are very happy with their health care, their only issue is with cost.

I support Medicaid and Medicare for those that need it (expand it if necessary, such as raising the income limits for Medicaid), and retaining private insurance for those that have it and want to keep it.

That’s the position of the majority of Democrats, including Kamala as you will hear later tonight.

Oh my God, what weapons grade bullshit would you have to consume to actually believe this :laughing::laughing::laughing:

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Jezza playing a blinder here. He has the Tories running for the hills.

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Boris is hellbent on calling an election, all tories leaders are as they have vast hubris. It will be him, Farage, Tommy Johnson and Arlene v Jezza, SNP, PC, Lib Dems and the Greens. He will be destroyed and Jezza will bring a resolution to Brexit that makes everybody happy with the probable exeption of Arlene and her bigoted backward chums who lived to see a united Ireland on their watch

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btbok

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Britain desperately needs rid of the malignant cancer that is right wing politics

We need a rainbow to emerge from the shit, but with more red, and less blue, no blue at all

What we know now is that the right in England could care less about the unionists in Ulster if it means they interfere with their real foes, percieved as they may be, in Brussels.

The DUP will always be “the Irish” to them