Jordan Peterson šŸ vs CH4

Itā€™s bizarre. If somebody reads a book by somebody they are referred to as ā€œtheir leaderā€.

The only leader I have is JĆ¼rgen Klopp. His Kult allows no other leaders.

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Jaaaā€¦ says the mid level civil servant who falls in line with every new social fad and gets his fanny in a twist when challenged

So Peterson is responsible for everything someone else says. Particularly a damaged individual. Did Peterson come out and say regardless of what this lad says, I back him 100%. An interesting level of culpability to apply, Iā€™m sure youā€™ll hold the left to the same standard going forward.

Or did he just agree with some of his viewpoints and not with others. That is a possible stance, not for morons who canā€™t debate though and shriek cancel once someone puts forward a questionable viewpoint.

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God help them. Theyā€™re like an epl fan whoā€™ll boo a player because the lad next to him says he once played for a ā€˜localā€™ rival.

The loony lefty headbangers just canā€™t get their head around personal responsibility

indeed

Klopp is a socialist, that makes you one by association

I donā€™t know much about either person in that interview but I had to stop watching after a few minutes as sheā€™s relentlessly trying to misquote him or misrepresent what heā€™s saying ā€¦sheā€™s getting angrier and angrier :joy:

just watch from 22 mins to 23.15 mins

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its a very familiar voice

Youā€™re the only one that gets worked up when challenged, dumdum.

No I wouldnā€™t ban him, Iā€™d give him his free speech.

But youā€™d dismiss him based on who you perceive he has associated with ?

Iā€™m dismissive of what he says based on who he chooses to associate himself with, yes. Also on the basis that heā€™s a near-suicidal depressive who only survives with serious medication and he makes his living telling people how to live their lives.

I wouldnā€™t dismiss him from his job and I wouldnā€™t ban his book. His book should be published.

Has he said something you disagree with?

A lot of angry white males on TFK

Whatā€™s needed is a communist landlord to put everything to rights

Endorsed Trump, refused to be respectful towards trans people, said that women who wear lipstick to work shouldnā€™t complain about being sexually harassed in work, etc. Heā€™s probably said load of stuff more I disagree with but I stopped listening to him.

Iā€™ve just remembered thereā€™s something interesting that he said once that had an effect on me. He talks about how the part of the human nervous system that reactions to social status and power and dominance etc. works the same as that in lobsters (Iā€™m over-simplifying here). Thatā€™s all fine as far as it goes but people canā€™t live their lives like lobsters, lobsters donā€™t have a spiritual life for example and their social hierarchies are A few years ago I was going through a rough patch in my personal life where things werenā€™t going well and I remember that in the middle of it I had a dream of a lobster floating down to the bottom of the sea and it all looked like Radioheadā€™s video for Pyramid Song. When I woke up I realised it was a Jordan Peterson-inspired metaphor for my life going south, like I was the lobster. So fair play to Peterson, he came up with an image that obviously had an effect on me and got embedded but at the same time I can also see that itā€™s not very helpful in terms of how youā€™re supposed to live your life.

Is there any other demographic on TFK than ā€œangry white malesā€

I doubt that he did anything as simplistic or unnuanced as endorse trump, or any other politician. The disrespectful towards trans people is utter bullshit and you know it. As for the lipstick thing, it was a provpcative remark to show the hypocrisy of what someone else was saying.
No offence tank but youā€™re full of shit here, unless Iā€™m wrong about the trump endorsement (highly unlikely)