Do you have learning difficulties? You seem like a candidate.
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How very unPC
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What Myers has said is 100% correct and him being a hypocrite does not alter that fact.
As proof of this you for eg. cannot disagree(because you are incapable) with the content of that article so instead label the source as hypocritical, to deflect. Itâs how snowflakes deal with facts, ignore and deflect and then scream.
What are you gibbering on about here, Cleetus?
Deflecting again. Useless fucker.
Itâs hard to debate with someone as thick as you.
You are not debating, you are deflecting.
The debate could start if you bothered to address a single point from the Myers talk which that article covered.
Instead you waded in feet first roaring hypocrite having not read the article only the headline. You werenât aware of the content and it looks like you still arenât.
Now you are calling me thick.
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I would encourage you to stop embarrassing yourself further on this thread.
Vanessa fatz and Claudia wrinkleman were given far too much credence in all of this. Any credence for either of that pair of narcissistic harridans is too much. I didnât find said article particularly offensive, but I wasnât determined to be offended. Its more offensive that they dictate that we should be offended.
In short, fuck em.
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Again, classic deflection and refusal to address anything at all from the Myers talk.
You are proving yourself an awful lightweight here, all I had to do was post a newspaper article.
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Iâve already addressed all the salient points regarding Mr Myers this morning. I cannot help it if you are too thick to comprehend it.
You didnât address the article you just rehashed your opinion on the man, which is irrelevant to said article and simply nothing new.
Iâm done now until you can address what Myers was quoted as saying in the article.
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Thatâs a good decision.
Just to point out a transparent way in which KM is anything but correct. KMâs address in Laois claims that his sacking from The Sunday Times is equivalent to the treatment meted out âfor a paedophile, for a rapist, for an unrepentant terroristâ. Let anyone interested in this topic have a gander at what said address actually contains, as opposed to indulging a wish to burnish KM as Witchfinder General of PC nonsense on the basis of prior columns.
Let us be clear. If you are found committing paedophilic crimes, rapes or terrorist acts, you will face a far higher tariff than being sacked as a newspaper columnist, starting with jail time. Fact, irrefutable fact.
That KMâs narcissism led him into such a histrionic and wrongheaded gloss on his current situation says much about his calibre as a writer and as a commentator. Whatever the right and the wrongs of KMâs sacking, this personal gloss on his sacking is hilariously and risibly incorrect.
Equally, JK Rowling and Chelsea Clinton are entitled, in turn, to their freedom of expression. KMâs logic garottes itself.
KM exercised his freedom of expression, over many years and in his last column. KM was indulged and handsomely remunerated for many years while he did so. The reality is that KM, in that last column, exercised his freedom in notably crass fashion (as KM effectively conceded) and paid a price for this crassness. Yet this price remains far below the one that lies in offing for a convicted paedophile, a convicted rapist, a convicted terrorist.
There is no way round, on KMâs own words, this fact, this truth.
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His point wasnât notably crass. It was an unwise, or unfortunate use of phrase.
If he did, however, coin the âmother of bastardsâ phrase alluded to above, then he is indeed a crass snob, who was foist by one of his own petards, though, oddly, it was the wrong one.
Utter rubbish. By any standards, this sentence is crass: âJews are not generally known for their insistence on selling their talent for the lowest possible price, which is the most useful measure there is of inveterate, lost-with-all-hands stupidity.â Anyone who finds that sentence less than crass has no perspective.
Will I evince for you just how weasel stupid KM is, how KM craves the sort of notoriety crass overstatement (and worse) can bestow in lieu of genuine originality and insight and style? Here, transparently, is evidence in KMâs own words.
KM once wrote: âThere was no holocaust (or Holocaust, as my computer software insists) and six million Jews were not murdered by the Third Reich. These two statements of mine are irrefutable truths.â
Anyone who writes about the Holocaust needs to be acutely careful because of the company this theme keeps. That sweeping statement by KM was dog whistle stuff, an attempt to convey a particular message to certain cohorts: âKM is so brave and truth telling as to take on the topic of the Holocaust. No liberal or politicallly correct dupe, KM.â
Challenged on these supposed âirrefutable truthsâ, KM cultivated his inner weasel. He stated of the term âHolocaustâ: âFor if the word is to have any literal validity at all, it must be related to its actual meaning, which comes from the Greek words, holos, âwhole, and caust, âfireâ. Most Jewish victims of the Third Reich were not burnt in the ovens in Auschwitz. They were shot by the hundreds of thousands in the Lebensraum of the east, or were worked or starved to death in a hundred other death camps, across the Reich.â Then KM summarized his point: âTo be sure, you can use the term holocaust to describe these events, but only as a metaphor.â
This specious mix of pseudo erudition and pseudo precision is typical of KMâs approach. Even by his own lights, KM should logically have written in the earlier passage: âsix million Jews were not incinerated by the Third Reichâ. But KM possesses neither the intelligence nor the scruple to absorb such points. KM, a terminal narcissist, simply wants the attention the earlier unnuanced statement bestowed. Besides, how much crasser does it get than treating the Holocaust as a supposed language game about the role of metaphor?
Anyone who admires KM has both a seriously wobbly moral compass and a seriously wonky sense of languageâs relation to exactitude.
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I never really read much of his stuff. I found it turgid and self important. I only read the offending article due to its notoriety. He always seemed more interested in appearing big and clever, than he did in giving any particular insight.
Here then, is the sentence that caused all the trouble. It is, in fact, true. Jewish people, rightly or wrongly, are not known for this. One of my good friends is a very wealthy Jewish man. I find it I interesting talking to him, as I donât know many others, and Iâm always interested in other traditions, and their origins. Strangely , I find that the Jewish customs resemble Muslim ones more than any others.
Anti-Semite!
This chap does a lot for charity.
I find it interesting. Our business manager is Jewish, and one of my best friends in England. He has a heart of gold, and would do anything for you, but heâd drive you mad. He told me that, and I quote âthe Jewish way of doing business is to haggle over every minor detail, until the other party gets so fed up, they cede what you want, just to be done with it.â
At the time, I took his word for it.
As I became good friends with the second lad, I asked him about this.
He said that this wasnât true. He said when he was younger, he was an absolute bollox in business, until his father took him to one side, and took out his iPhone, and explained that âThis phone, is maybe worth ÂŁ300. Someone desperate my sell you this phone for a distressed price, say ÂŁ200, even though itâs worth more. You can take advantage of this, and they will not forget it, or you can compromise. Give them ÂŁ250, and they will do business with you againâ.
I likened it to something the toughest, kindest and wisest old bastard I ever met said to me when I slept on his floor for free in NYC (he since died in a fire, God rest him). âpay the manâ, he always said. âeveryone has to eatâ. Im badly digressing here in any case, point being, the richest man I know most likely, is Jewish, and would be interested always in a fair price for a fair job, so it isnât true, but whatever way you slice it, the Jewish race, rightly or wrongly, are not known for being profligate.
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