Kilkenny GAA thread

[Locke]

But this is the thing. You have to be into the detail imho. If not you’ll have talented players, committed to the game, but ultimately will not win you senior all irelands.

[flattythehurdler]

Just inject them like Limerick and have done with it.

[neilld]

Hurling is a very technical game to coach, or the skills are anyway

[Locke]

I agree. I was cackhanded myself up to the age of around 10-11 when the auld-boy saw it and made me change to conventional RHOT grip. I asked him why I had to make the change, he said if you don’t change you’ll never make it as a hurler, simple as. Made it a top priority over those next few days.

Still didn’t make it.

[eoghanruadha]

There’s a potential case study in there on the Reids alone. They’ve adapted in an unorthodox fashion with very positive results.

Patrick was orthodox RHOT, if I remember correctly?

[endakenny]

I’ve seen plenty of left handers hurl RHOT but it’s interesting it goes both ways.

Deadly post.

[corner_back]

I can’t find any evidence but am notn sure you’re right re Sheehan anyway. You’ve probably seen him hurl a lot more than me. He does something very awkward looking with his hands when striking off his left. Limited him as a county corner forward I felt.

[Billy.the.Bounce]

@Malarkey

The difficulty lies in knowing whether a player is lefthanded or righthanded, something you cannot know for definite unless you see a player writing, say, an autograph.

TYPES OF HURLERS

RIght Hand On Top
1a Righthanded and right side (forehand) orientated for dead balls: majority of players (Joe Canning, Austin Gleeson, Eoin Kelly x 2, Henry Shefflin).

1b Righthanded and left side (backhanded) orientated for dead balls: significant minority of players (Aaron Gillane, Tony Kelly, John McCaffrey, John Mullane, Pádraig Walsh, Tommy Walsh). You also have rare birds such as Rónan Maher (takes frees off left side and sideline cuts off right side) and Jackie Tyrrell (takes frees off right side and sideline cuts off left side). Ollie Canning took sideline cuts off both sides.

1c Lefthanded and generally left side (backhand) orientated: small but significant minority of players (Brian Concannon, John Conlon, Darren Morrissey, Eoin Reid, Richie Reid).

1d Lefthanded and right side (forehand) orientated for dead balls: tiny minority of players (Ballyhale Shamrocks’ Brian Cody and Donnchadh Fitzpatrick, Aisake Ó hAilpín).

Left Hand On Top
2a Lefthanded and left side (forehand) orientated for dead balls: significant amount of players (Jimmy Doyle, Paul Kelly, Shane Kingston, Gary Maguire, Pádraic Maher, Kevin Moran, Declan Ryan).

2b Lefthanded and right side (backhanded) orientated for dead balls: significant minority of players (Lar Corbett, Brendan Cummins, Joey Holden, Eoin Larkin, Cian Lynch, Jake Morris, Ger ‘Redser’ O’Grady, Lester Ryan).

2c Righthanded and generally right side (backhand) orientated: significant minority of players (David Blanchfield, Mikey Butler, Diarmaid Byrnes, Jonathan Glynn, Brian Hogan, Peter Kelly, Diarmuid Lyng, Brendan Lynskey, Gearóid McInerney, Gerry McInerney).

2d Righthanded and left side (forehand) orientated for dead balls: miniscule cohort of players (Aidan McCarthy, TJ Reid).

Grip Changing
3a Righthanded, rhot to grip and lhot to strike: significant minority of players (Richie Bennis, Pat Delaney, Aidan ‘Taggy’ Fogarty, Barry Foley, Kevin Hennessy, Gary Kirby, Paddy Mullally, Éamonn O’Donoghue, Walter Walsh).

3b Lhot to grip and rhot to strike: miniscule cohort of players. I can only recall Paul Braniff (Down), Frank Foley (Mount Leinster Rangers) and Conor Kavanagh (Kinvara/Liam Mellows) in this category. CK told me he is righthanded. I do not know with which hand PB and FF write.

Pan Forehand Orientated
There was a strong tendency in 19th century hurling to play strokes lhot when striking off left side and rhot when striking off right side. I imagine this practice originated due to the lack of space in the 21 a side game. There is evidence that the great Tubberadora team of the 1890s hurled in this fashion. The pan forehand tendency was so pronounced that the gifted Jamesy Kelleher was warned off doing so when he went in to hurl with Cork around 1900. Timmy Ryan, tremendous Limerick midfielder of the 1930s and 1940s, was a relic of this style. Michael Haverty (Loughrea) seemed to my eye another possible relic during his playing days.

Donnacha Fitzpatrick will be delighted with the mention in the same post as some of the greats of the game

[Locke]

@Billy.the.Bounce

Donnacha Fitzpatrick will be delighted with the mention in the same post as some of the greats of the game

As will Redser

[StoneCold]

OLG giving Shamrocks pucks of it

[Watchyourtoes]

Ballyhale bate again and this time there is no coming back.

[Piles_Hussain]

Helluva game

[eoghanruadha]

OMG OLG

[StoneCold]

Who runs the Kilkenny Twitter/X page? Not many updates on the flagship day in the calendar

[balbec]

Well done Brian Hogan

[Raylan]

@Malarkey

I would be surprised if Ballyhale Shamrocks won this year. But someone will have to beat them. O’Loughlin Gaels are probably a value bet at 9/1. Brian Hogan is an excellent appointment as their manager.

Ye were telt

[Aristotle]

Hon Paddy Deegan

[blackjack]

A fuckin joke

[balbec]

Huw Lawlor captain of Kk next year?

[flattythehurdler]

Chapeau @Malarkey