Limerick GAA - We get knocked down 🐐

[anon25556527]

To paraphrase Tony Soprano the medics no nothing about the back. I doubt we will see him starting anytime soon from what I hear.

[anon61956325]

@glasagusban

Bollox. We could do with him. Paudie and Dodge to be dropped for Browne and Downes is a must.

If Wayne is so fucked how is he good enough to come in for a few mins?

I think he is on the mend lately… but injured for the earlier part of the campaign - He also injured his foot at the start of the league.

[anon25556527]

Not sure why everybody thinks Downes deserves a start. He is a hell of a lot less deserving than Hannon.

[anon61956325]

@anon25556527

Anybody that thinks Teege is going to make a whole pile of changes hasn’t a clue. 2 personnel and maybe two positional. Wayne Mcs back is apparently fucked is the reason as to why he is not involved.

It’s as I suspected - he’s hoping that things are going to click… it’s pointless bringing in new players at this stage of the season but he has to make positional changes and lay down a game plan!

[glasagusban]

Why?

@rocko, this 5 character minimum thing is very annoying.

[Elvis_Brandenberg_Kr]

Ah we’re bollixed, so we are.

[glasagusban]

@ChocolateMice

What do you mean Gavin surely stays at 6? He has been far from convincing - he mopped up a bit of loose ball the last day but his job is to hold the line and he didn’t do it…Wayne Mac offers McCarty more protection tho he is more limited than Gavin when it comes to distribution… i’d rather the former at the minute being honest at the rate we are conceding goals…Gavin just doesn’t have the physicality for 6… Seanie O’Brien has added a bit ball carrying out of defence but what did his man score the last day??? 1-3… experiment over. When we are going well I agree that Dowling needs to be in at full but over the next two games we need him on the ball as much as possible, he’s bar far our best player and he is not influencing games in at 14 presently. Hannon can sit on the sidelines and decide whether he wants to be involved or not. Breen needs game time as does Tobin and i’d only leave Mul on in the hope he bangs a few in and it gets him going… Downes, likewise.

On Gavin done alright there but needs more cover. He’s our best defender to use the ball well and it makes sense to deploy him here but you’re right he’s not a stopper and that should be recognised and cover put in place. He’d be perfect playing the same role O’Grady played in 2012 but we require major elevation in workrate from forwards to allow that. The only alternative is Wayne who hasn’t even been able to start a game so I think we’re stuck with Gavin. If we had another 6 and some options at half back Gavin at 11 could do the same for us as Brendan Maher does for Tipp, dropping deep, tackling, picking up ball, delivering ball, and taking scores. Shortage of resources.

Seanie was good going forward and tried hard throughout. One of the few to emerge with any credit IMO. In a choice between him and Condon I’d keep Seanie.

[anon61956325]

@Elvis_Brandenberg_Kr

Ah we’re bollixed, so we are.

Come on Limerick always.

[anon25556527]

@glasagusban

@ChocolateMice

What do you mean Gavin surely stays at 6? He has been far from convincing - he mopped up a bit of loose ball the last day but his job is to hold the line and he didn’t do it…Wayne Mac offers McCarty more protection tho he is more limited than Gavin when it comes to distribution… i’d rather the former at the minute being honest at the rate we are conceding goals…Gavin just doesn’t have the physicality for 6… Seanie O’Brien has added a bit ball carrying out of defence but what did his man score the last day??? 1-3… experiment over. When we are going well I agree that Dowling needs to be in at full but over the next two games we need him on the ball as much as possible, he’s bar far our best player and he is not influencing games in at 14 presently. Hannon can sit on the sidelines and decide whether he wants to be involved or not. Breen needs game time as does Tobin and i’d only leave Mul on in the hope he bangs a few in and it gets him going… Downes, likewise.

On Gavin done alright there but needs more cover. He’s our best defender to use the ball well and it makes sense to deploy him here but you’re right he’s not a stopper and that should be recognised and cover put in place. He’d be perfect playing the same role O’Grady played in 2012 but we require major elevation in workrate from forwards to allow that. The only alternative is Wayne who hasn’t even been able to start a game so I think we’re stuck with Gavin. If we had another 6 and some options at half back Gavin at 11 could do the same for us as Brendan Maher does for Tipp, dropping deep, tackling, picking up ball, delivering ball, and taking scores. Shortage of resources.

Seanie was good going forward and tried hard throughout. One of the few to emerge with any credit IMO. In a choice between him and Condon I’d keep Seanie.

You hit on a few good points. Limerick can’t really play with a man back as it does not suit our forwards. 1) Very few ball winners
2) It will make Dowling look really silly again.

[glasagusban]

I don’t know if I agree with that, I think Tipp’s style would be a decent template for us.

Anyway, why is Hannon more deserving of a chances than Downes? Has he not in fact had way more chances and why can’t you play both?

[anon61956325]

@glasagusban

I don’t know if I agree with that, I think Tipp’s style would be a decent template for us.

Anyway, why is Hannon more deserving of a chances than Downes? Has he not in fact had way more chances and why can’t you play both?

You’ve nothing to lose by dropping Hannon for the next game - Give Downes a chance to get confidence back and we will see how Hannon responds- I’d like to do the same at the back but we are so short on alternatives you can’t, but it would be no harm to let Hickey sit it out either and maybe let O’Brien where he is, bring Wayne in and drop Condon back to the corner…we should be beating W.Meath with our second string, TJ needs to use this game to send a message to certain players - it’s his neck on the line. You can be sure other managers would do it.

[anon25556527]

I’d be very surprised if Teege is going to do anything radical.

N. Quaid

R. McCarthy
S. Hickey
S. O Brien
G. O Mahony

P. Browne
J. Ryan
D. Breen
D. Hannon

C. Lynch
S. Dowling
G. Mulachy

I’d be shocked if those 12 don’t start our next game or at least the game against the next good team we play.

Teege logic:

Most people believed after the Kilkenny game last year lack of goals was a problem for this side. Teege has a decent set of forwards at his disposal particularly after the introduction of Cian Lynch.

He moved Paudie O Brien to midfield to improve distribution and brought in Seanie O Brien who is very good at moving off his ball and giving under pressure backs an option. S O Brien and O Mahony seem like the ideal half backs either side of Wayne. His love for timber and their movement would mean Wayne would options to distribute the ball to as opposed to ballooning it up the field to nobody. Waynes loss of form is a massive blow. At this time we have no other options in the backs bar Dan Morrissey and Paudie O Brien. Dodge at a stretch. Condon is a woeful wing back and a decent corner back so you would imagine it was S Walsh who gained from Waynes loss of form. A conservative Teege will not throw a half back line of S. O Brien, GOM and Dan into championship action. So if Wayne does not recover which I am led to believe is unlikely it is very likely we will have the same backs as we did the first two days out.

At midfield Paul Browne seemed to lose out to Paudie but will surely be brought back in alongside Jim Bob. John Fitz won’t be starting and after that with Tom Ryan MIA we have no other viable options.

Hannon is much criticised but still our best option. If he gets the ball into the hand he invariably scores. If you had two good work horses either side of him he could be dynamite. Hannon will work hard - v Clare he completely shut down Conor Ryan and against Tipp it seemed a tactic for him to step of Paudie Maher for whatever reason. I’d hazard a guess at saying David Reidy might just get the start versus West Meath unless Ronan Lynch comes in. Dodgeys days at this level are over.

Cian Lynch, Graeme Mul and Dowling will the full forward line with Kevin Downes covering.

Re Downes: He is simply terrible at catching a ball. I’d say he might catch 1 for every 50 balls hit down on him but when he does he can cause havoc. I’m sure Teege thinks he too poor at ball winning to play him anywhere bar the full forward line. If he does happen to catch one at least he will be close to the goals. Puck outs need to be won these days and he won’t do that.

I’m sure somebody will say drop Hannon and start him centre forward but in reality he isn’t even good at moving off his man for loose ball like Hannon. All his good moments in a green shirt have come from catching his own ball but he does that so rarely.

[glasagusban]

I agree generally. But with Hickey I just think he needs more hurling rather than a kick up the arse, so leave him. Hannon, the same but with instruction he has to up the workrate. Might be no harm for him to be subbed. Of course this may be an unfair view from us as for all we know he may have carried out whatever instructions he was given to a T. Downes should be given 70 mins. Taking him off v Wexford last year was a mistake which appeared to crush his confidence IMO.

[anon61956325]

@anon25556527

I’d be very surprised if Teege is going to do anything radical.

N. Quaid

R. McCarthy
S. Hickey
S. O Brien
G. O Mahony

P. Browne
J. Ryan
D. Breen
D. Hannon

C. Lynch
S. Dowling
G. Mulachy

I’d be shocked if those 12 don’t start our next game or at least the game against the next good team we play.

Teege logic:

Most people believed after the Kilkenny game last year lack of goals was a problem for this side. Teege has a decent set of forwards at his disposal particularly after the introduction of Cian Lynch.

He moved Paudie O Brien to midfield to improve distribution and brought in Seanie O Brien who is very good at moving off his ball and giving under pressure backs an option. S O Brien and O Mahony seem like the ideal half backs either side of Wayne. His love for timber and their movement would mean Wayne would options to distribute the ball to as opposed to ballooning it up the field to nobody. Waynes loss of form is a massive blow. At this time we have no other options in the backs bar Dan Morrissey and Paudie O Brien. Dodge at a stretch. Condon is a woeful wing back and a decent corner back so you would imagine it was S Walsh who gained from Waynes loss of form. A conservative Teege will not throw a half back line of S. O Brien, GOM and Dan into championship action. So if Wayne does not recover which I am led to believe is unlikely it is very likely we will have the same backs as we did the first two days out.

At midfield Paul Browne seemed to lose out to Paudie but will surely be brought back in alongside Jim Bob. John Fitz won’t be starting and after that with Tom Ryan MIA we have no other viable options.

Hannon is much criticised but still our best option. If he gets the ball into the hand he invariably scores. If you had two good work horses either side of him he could be dynamite. Hannon will work hard - v Clare he completely shut down Conor Ryan and against Tipp it seemed a tactic for him to step of Paudie Maher for whatever reason. I’d hazard a guess at saying David Reidy might just get the start versus West Meath unless Ronan Lynch comes in. Dodgeys days at this level are over.

Cian Lynch, Graeme Mul and Dowling will the full forward line with Kevin Downes covering.

Re Downes: He is simply terrible at catching a ball. I’d say he might catch 1 for every 50 balls hit down on him but when he does he can cause havoc. I’m sure Teege thinks he too poor at ball winning to play him anywhere bar the full forward line. If he does happen to catch one at least he will be close to the goals. Puck outs need to be won these days and he won’t do that.

I’m sure somebody will say drop Hannon and start him centre forward but in reality he isn’t even good at moving off his man for loose ball like Hannon. All his good moments in a green shirt have come from catching his own ball but he does that so rarely.

What’s Wayne’s problem? He looked physically ok in the 2 sub appearances he made…

[glasagusban]

He’ll catch more ball than Dodge or Breen.

[Joe_Player]

Same all same all

@ChocolateMice

@anon25556527

I’d be very surprised if Teege is going to do anything radical.

N. Quaid

R. McCarthy
S. Hickey
S. O Brien
G. O Mahony

P. Browne
J. Ryan
D. Breen
D. Hannon

C. Lynch
S. Dowling
G. Mulachy

I’d be shocked if those 12 don’t start our next game or at least the game against the next good team we play.

Teege logic:

Most people believed after the Kilkenny game last year lack of goals was a problem for this side. Teege has a decent set of forwards at his disposal particularly after the introduction of Cian Lynch.

He moved Paudie O Brien to midfield to improve distribution and brought in Seanie O Brien who is very good at moving off his ball and giving under pressure backs an option. S O Brien and O Mahony seem like the ideal half backs either side of Wayne. His love for timber and their movement would mean Wayne would options to distribute the ball to as opposed to ballooning it up the field to nobody. Waynes loss of form is a massive blow. At this time we have no other options in the backs bar Dan Morrissey and Paudie O Brien. Dodge at a stretch. Condon is a woeful wing back and a decent corner back so you would imagine it was S Walsh who gained from Waynes loss of form. A conservative Teege will not throw a half back line of S. O Brien, GOM and Dan into championship action. So if Wayne does not recover which I am led to believe is unlikely it is very likely we will have the same backs as we did the first two days out.

At midfield Paul Browne seemed to lose out to Paudie but will surely be brought back in alongside Jim Bob. John Fitz won’t be starting and after that with Tom Ryan MIA we have no other viable options.

Hannon is much criticised but still our best option. If he gets the ball into the hand he invariably scores. If you had two good work horses either side of him he could be dynamite. Hannon will work hard - v Clare he completely shut down Conor Ryan and against Tipp it seemed a tactic for him to step of Paudie Maher for whatever reason. I’d hazard a guess at saying David Reidy might just get the start versus West Meath unless Ronan Lynch comes in. Dodgeys days at this level are over.

Cian Lynch, Graeme Mul and Dowling will the full forward line with Kevin Downes covering.

Re Downes: He is simply terrible at catching a ball. I’d say he might catch 1 for every 50 balls hit down on him but when he does he can cause havoc. I’m sure Teege thinks he too poor at ball winning to play him anywhere bar the full forward line. If he does happen to catch one at least he will be close to the goals. Puck outs need to be won these days and he won’t do that.

I’m sure somebody will say drop Hannon and start him centre forward but in reality he isn’t even good at moving off his man for loose ball like Hannon. All his good moments in a green shirt have come from catching his own ball but he does that so rarely.

What’s Wayne’s problem? He looked physically ok in the 2 sub appearances he made…

[The_Most_Infamous]

His surname takes far more effort to type pal.

[anon61956325]

Come on Limerick always.

[The_Most_Infamous]

I say throw Downes in FF. Dowling will be as effective on the 40. Walsh and Hickey have to taken out of the FB line. Bench Walsh and put hickey in wing back. Drop Condon back as a direct sub for Walsh. I personally think we are struggling for another quality corner back

[The_Most_Infamous]

Better then that gay acronym COYBIG
anyway