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[QUOTE=“ciarancareyshurlingarmy, post: 982853, member: 464”]Cork forwards got the 1 on 1s a little better and we wasted chances. anyone got the chances missed/converted numbers?

The minor management made a bollocks of it, wtf were they at? Nepotism will ruin a good team[/QUOTE]

Ye had loads of chances. Limerick are lacking a cutting edge up front and if they had it they’d have been well capable of winning today for starters. Dowling was too slow in his decision making, but beyond him there wasn’t much of a plan in evidence when the forwards were winning the ball. They won loads of it but didn’t get anything like the return they should have.

As things stand Limerick need far too much dominance in order to beat opposing teams, in contrast to Cork who only need spells because of how disciplined and consistent they are in using the ball in attack. But if Limerick could get a bit more from that full-forward line they wouldn’t be far off.

Ultimately today wasn’t that important to Limerick, and performances to date have no bearing on where the All Ireland will go. The team that improves the most from this point onwards is the team that’s going to be crowned as champions in September. Is there more in Limerick?

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Disappointing loss, but not gutting. We’ve a very winnable quarter final game and some obvious problems to solve. The areas in which we lost the game today were foreseeable, questionable/doubtful whether those problems can be fixed in time for the next game(or semi) though.

I highlighted three worries at the back before the game. Hickey as a traditional corner back and our two wing backs. While Hickey was super, aside from the dispossession that led to the goal at the end, he’ll be hurting over that but on balance had a good game, the concerns over our wing backs came back to haunt us. Paudie as a wing back is a square peg in a round hole, a super player but not a wing back, I called that last year, he’s now a liability. Gavin’s form is very worrying, two bad games in a row now which I’ve never seen from him in championship. By the time we switched hickey to wing for Paudie and then took off Gavin it was too late. Tom Ryan had a broken thumb, if he was fit he should have come on at half time, may be ready in time for the next game, if so I’d start him. Big calls to make next game, those two wings can’t start together again, either of them on their own now is even a risk. The cleaning those two got was probably the losing of the game today.

Up front all of our forwards had the beating of their men in the first 20 minutes but there was very little connection in their play, no support play like you’d see from the likes of Clare, Cork, or Tipp. At 11 Dodge is another square peg in a round hole and we have to make a hard call on him now. Either start him nominally at half forward and have him playing deep in midfield, or drop him. He does some good things but some of the wides are shocking and he went missing long before the end. Management will persist with him though. Downes should be centre forward, he didn’t see a ball at corner forward for most of the match and wing doesn’t get enough out of him -atrocious wide at the end though. Another example of lack of support play/patterns was the puck outs, not enough variation. Walsh moved over in front of Breen for the puck outs when Breen was cleaning up yet we didn’t hit the other wing or find a puck out to midfield. Very frustrating.

The sideline were also too slow to make changes and by 60 minutes when the game was slipping away we should have rolled the dice with the subs we had. Moran and Allis should have been thrown in, we had nothing to lose.

It’s probably too late to vary our game too much but I still think the players we have available lend themselves to playing a two man full forward line. Unless we want to chance starting Moran again I don’t think we have strong enough full forwards to justify a three man inside line (I see Downes as a centre forward because we are unable to get ball to him at full or corner) whereas on the other hand we have a handful of half forward/midfield type players.

How much we can improve for the next game I don’t know. I think we’ll be good enough to win. Realistically though, though the players might be there, we are not sophisticated enough to be progressing to an AI final.

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[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 982877, member: 1533”]Disappointing loss, but not gutting. We’ve a very winnable quarter final game and some obvious problems to solve. The areas in which we lost the game today were foreseeable, questionable/doubtful whether those problems can be fixed in time for the next game(or semi) though.

I highlighted three worries at the back before the game. Hickey as a traditional corner back and our two wing backs. While Hickey was super, aside from the dispossession that led to the goal at the end, he’ll be hurting over that but on balance had a good game, the concerns over our wing backs came back to haunt us. Paudie as a wing back is a square peg in a round hole, a super player but not a wing back, I called that last year, he’s now a liability. Gavin’s form is very worrying, two bad games in a row now which I’ve never seen from him in championship. By the time we switched hickey to wing for Paudie and then took off Gavin it was too late. Tom Ryan had a broken thumb, if he was fit he should have come on at half time, may be ready in time for the next game, if so I’d start him. Big calls to make next game, those two wings can’t start together again, either of them on their own now is even a risk. The cleaning those two got was probably the losing of the game today.

Up front all of our forwards had the beating of their men in the first 20 minutes but there was very little connection in their play, no support play like you’d see from the likes of Clare, Cork, or Tipp. At 11 Dodge is another square peg in a round hole and we have to make a hard call on him now. Either start him nominally at half forward and have him playing deep in midfield, or drop him. He does some good things but some of the wides are shocking and he went missing long before the end. Management will persist with him though. Downes should be centre forward, he didn’t see a ball at corner forward for most of the match and wing doesn’t get enough out of him -atrocious wide at the end though. Another example of lack of support play/patterns was the puck outs, not enough variation. Walsh moved over in front of Breen for the puck outs when Breen was cleaning up yet we didn’t hit the other wing or find a puck out to midfield. Very frustrating.

The sideline were also too slow to make changes and by 60 minutes when the game was slipping away we should have rolled the dice with the subs we had. Moran and Allis should have been thrown in, we had nothing to lose.

It’s probably too late to vary our game too much but I still think the players we have available lend themselves to playing a two man full forward line. Unless we want to chance starting Moran again I don’t think we have strong enough full forwards to justify a three man inside line (I see Downes as a centre forward because we are unable to get ball to him at full or corner) whereas on the other hand we have a handful of half forward/midfield type players.

How much we can improve for the next game I don’t know. I think we’ll be good enough to win. Realistically though, though the players might be there, we are not sophisticated enough to be progressing to an AI final.[/QUOTE]

I’d actually agree with all that Glasagusban and it’s better for the management to be finding these lessons out now as apposed to Croke Park in August.I think Limerick have a fine team but your sideline made life a hell of a lot easier for us today.It was anyones game with 10 minutes to go but we snatched those crucial goals.

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I would not blame the sideline too much. We know paudie is not top.class at hb, might be worth dodge at 5 or 6 alongside Wayne. Else you swap jimbon and dodge a few times. Hannon needs to get the finger out, mulcahy, Downes, breen, dowling all contributed (despite the 3 frees).

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[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 982877, member: 1533”]Disappointing loss, but not gutting. We’ve a very winnable quarter final game and some obvious problems to solve. The areas in which we lost the game today were foreseeable, questionable/doubtful whether those problems can be fixed in time for the next game(or semi) though.

I highlighted three worries at the back before the game. Hickey as a traditional corner back and our two wing backs. While Hickey was super, aside from the dispossession that led to the goal at the end, he’ll be hurting over that but on balance had a good game, the concerns over our wing backs came back to haunt us. Paudie as a wing back is a square peg in a round hole, a super player but not a wing back, I called that last year, he’s now a liability. Gavin’s form is very worrying, two bad games in a row now which I’ve never seen from him in championship. By the time we switched hickey to wing for Paudie and then took off Gavin it was too late. Tom Ryan had a broken thumb, if he was fit he should have come on at half time, may be ready in time for the next game, if so I’d start him. Big calls to make next game, those two wings can’t start together again, either of them on their own now is even a risk. The cleaning those two got was probably the losing of the game today.

Up front all of our forwards had the beating of their men in the first 20 minutes but there was very little connection in their play, no support play like you’d see from the likes of Clare, Cork, or Tipp. At 11 Dodge is another square peg in a round hole and we have to make a hard call on him now. Either start him nominally at half forward and have him playing deep in midfield, or drop him. He does some good things but some of the wides are shocking and he went missing long before the end. Management will persist with him though. Downes should be centre forward, he didn’t see a ball at corner forward for most of the match and wing doesn’t get enough out of him -atrocious wide at the end though. Another example of lack of support play/patterns was the puck outs, not enough variation. Walsh moved over in front of Breen for the puck outs when Breen was cleaning up yet we didn’t hit the other wing or find a puck out to midfield. Very frustrating.

The sideline were also too slow to make changes and by 60 minutes when the game was slipping away we should have rolled the dice with the subs we had. Moran and Allis should have been thrown in, we had nothing to lose.

It’s probably too late to vary our game too much but I still think the players we have available lend themselves to playing a two man full forward line. Unless we want to chance starting Moran again I don’t think we have strong enough full forwards to justify a three man inside line (I see Downes as a centre forward because we are unable to get ball to him at full or corner) whereas on the other hand we have a handful of half forward/midfield type players.

How much we can improve for the next game I don’t know. I think we’ll be good enough to win. Realistically though, though the players might be there, we are not sophisticated enough to be progressing to an AI final.[/QUOTE]

Agree with most of that but Allis was never an option today unfortunately as he wasn’t even in the match-day 26.

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Didn’t notice that. Injured? Dempsey the same today. He’s fit again, though he has missed some training through injury.

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For a finish I was relieved the minors held on for a draw. Waterford were well worth a replay. Strange match, both teams had their periods of dominance when they looked much the better team. Management made some very poor calls. I won’t comment on the nepotism.

Cork were the better team but frustrating in that the game was still winnable for us. We were far too open at the back in the second half, Hickey was doing well in the full backline, he should have been left in there. Even after the second goal pushed the gap to 6 we never gave in, got the gap back to 4 but Cork found their scores easier to come by. I’m disappointed but not crestfallen. There is a great group of players there at the moment and I’m certain they’ll produce a performance in a fortnight.

We get knocked down and we get back up again. Quarter final will be tough but we’ve a reasonable chance and hopefully we’ll drive on from todays setback, as Cork did last year. A few tweaks and changes can improve us. They went down with all guns blazing today and on another day could have nicked it.

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[QUOTE=“glasagusban, post: 982877, member: 1533”]Disappointing loss, but not gutting. We’ve a very winnable quarter final game and some obvious problems to solve. The areas in which we lost the game today were foreseeable, questionable/doubtful whether those problems can be fixed in time for the next game(or semi) though.

I highlighted three worries at the back before the game. Hickey as a traditional corner back and our two wing backs. While Hickey was super, aside from the dispossession that led to the goal at the end, he’ll be hurting over that but on balance had a good game, the concerns over our wing backs came back to haunt us. Paudie as a wing back is a square peg in a round hole, a super player but not a wing back, I called that last year, he’s now a liability. Gavin’s form is very worrying, two bad games in a row now which I’ve never seen from him in championship. By the time we switched hickey to wing for Paudie and then took off Gavin it was too late. Tom Ryan had a broken thumb, if he was fit he should have come on at half time, may be ready in time for the next game, if so I’d start him. Big calls to make next game, those two wings can’t start together again, either of them on their own now is even a risk. The cleaning those two got was probably the losing of the game today.

Up front all of our forwards had the beating of their men in the first 20 minutes but there was very little connection in their play, no support play like you’d see from the likes of Clare, Cork, or Tipp. At 11 Dodge is another square peg in a round hole and we have to make a hard call on him now. Either start him nominally at half forward and have him playing deep in midfield, or drop him. He does some good things but some of the wides are shocking and he went missing long before the end. Management will persist with him though. Downes should be centre forward, he didn’t see a ball at corner forward for most of the match and wing doesn’t get enough out of him -atrocious wide at the end though. Another example of lack of support play/patterns was the puck outs, not enough variation. Walsh moved over in front of Breen for the puck outs when Breen was cleaning up yet we didn’t hit the other wing or find a puck out to midfield. Very frustrating.

The sideline were also too slow to make changes and by 60 minutes when the game was slipping away we should have rolled the dice with the subs we had. Moran and Allis should have been thrown in, we had nothing to lose.

It’s probably too late to vary our game too much but I still think the players we have available lend themselves to playing a two man full forward line. Unless we want to chance starting Moran again I don’t think we have strong enough full forwards to justify a three man inside line (I see Downes as a centre forward because we are unable to get ball to him at full or corner) whereas on the other hand we have a handful of half forward/midfield type players.

How much we can improve for the next game I don’t know. I think we’ll be good enough to win. Realistically though, though the players might be there, we are not sophisticated enough to be progressing to an AI final.[/QUOTE]
A decent summation, although I wouldn’t agree with criticism of Dodge at center forward.I think we all agree that something needs to be done to repair the halfback line. Wayne Mac done well but the other two were well beaten overall.
I thought dodge done well at center forward and was involved in many of the scores, Hannon and Breen are the only forwards that I would consider changing. It was also very promising to see Mulcahy play well.
There is not a whole lot wrong with Limerick but there are definitely options available to the management, hopefully they start using them.

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The options are there to change the team around.Limerick have this habit of bombing high and aimless ball down on top of their forwards.There is serious firepower in that Limerick team but at the moment the management are not getting the best out of those forwards.For all that they still scored 24 points today and they played well in fits and starts.

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Really Balbec, after today do you think the same you bollix?

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[QUOTE=“dodgy-keeper, post: 982963, member: 1552”]For a finish I was relieved the minors held on for a draw. Waterford were well worth a replay. Strange match, both teams had their periods of dominance when they looked much the better team. Management made some very poor calls. I won’t comment on the nepotism.
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Of course you won’t you cunt because to do that would be to admit that you were wrong all along. Kip Killagain brought in Kip junior when they were seven points up so that he would be in the team climbing up the steps. To say otherwise is to admit there are serious mental deficiencies in your own gene pool. Like that other prick @glasagusban you have been found out and Batt has been proven right. There were serious questions to be asked about managements of both teams today and due to a compliant media they will not be asked. After the destruction of the GAA programme on WLR 102 there is now no-one to ask the hard questions.

I see the voice of Limerick GAA was tweeting from abroad today. Luckily I was in a position not to have to suffer whatever commentary they had going today but whats the betting that fuckwit Joe won’t ask relevant questions on Monday morning?

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I have no idea what you are talking about. But glad I touched a nerve.

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[QUOTE=“Batt the Ladd, post: 983115, member: 1578”]Of course you won’t you cunt because to do that would be to admit that you were wrong all along. Kip Killagain brought in Kip junior when they were seven points up so that he would be in the team climbing up the steps. To say otherwise is to admit there are serious mental deficiencies in your own gene pool. Like that other prick @glasagusban you have been found out and Batt has been proven right. There were serious questions to be asked about managements of both teams today and due to a compliant media they will not be asked. After the destruction of the GAA programme on WLR 102 there is now no-one to ask the hard questions.

I see the voice of Limerick GAA was tweeting from abroad today. Luckily I was in a position not to have to suffer whatever commentary they had going today but whats the betting that fuckwit Joe won’t ask relevant questions on Monday morning?[/QUOTE]

14204

Dowling better than I gave him credit for, Hannon worse. Condon was well beaten -three of 6 backs being well beaten is curtains.

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Im surprised there wasn’t a rant about the politically motivated understudy.

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[QUOTE=“ThunderPuss, post: 982976, member: 1593”]A decent summation, although I wouldn’t agree with criticism of Dodge at center forward.I think we all agree that something needs to be done to repair the halfback line. Wayne Mac done well but the other two were well beaten overall.
I thought dodge done well at center forward and was involved in many of the scores, Hannon and Breen are the only forwards that I would consider changing. It was also very promising to see Mulcahy play well.
There is not a whole lot wrong with Limerick but there are definitely options available to the management, hopefully they start using them.[/QUOTE]

yeah I thought Donal O’Grady did ok as well and cannot figure the negativity around his performance. There are bigger problems for Limerick

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Limerick WILL beat this Kilkenny team in the All Ireland semi final.

Limerick will make the All Ireland this year and will beat Tipp or Cork.

2014, this is the year.

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[QUOTE=“Batt the Ladd, post: 983115, member: 1578”]Of course you won’t you cunt because to do that would be to admit that you were wrong all along. Kip Killagain brought in Kip junior when they were seven points up so that he would be in the team climbing up the steps. To say otherwise is to admit there are serious mental deficiencies in your own gene pool. Like that other prick @glasagusban you have been found out and Batt has been proven right. There were serious questions to be asked about managements of both teams today and due to a compliant media they will not be asked. After the destruction of the GAA programme on WLR 102 there is now no-one to ask the hard questions.

I see the voice of Limerick GAA was tweeting from abroad today. Luckily I was in a position not to have to suffer whatever commentary they had going today but whats the betting that fuckwit Joe won’t ask relevant questions on Monday morning?[/QUOTE]

Rated old by Glas, what else would you expect? The like of you cunts can’t see beyond the next free meal at the big house whilst worshipping at the feet of the Liberties clique.

Even cunts like you have to admit that serious errors were made today but keep on denying everything you fucking gimp and eventually we will win something.

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[QUOTE=“Batt the Ladd, post: 983215, member: 1578”]Rated old by Glas, what else would you expect? The like of you cunts can’t see beyond the next free meal at the big house whilst worshipping at the feet of the Liberties clique.

Even cunts like you have to admit that serious errors were made today but keep on denying everything you fucking gimp and eventually we will win something.[/QUOTE]

Don’t mind GAB. He is not to be taken too seriously.

Who knows, he may even be able to get a ticket to the quarter final :slight_smile:

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[QUOTE=“Batt the Ladd, post: 983215, member: 1578”]Rated old by Glas, what else would you expect? The like of you cunts can’t see beyond the next free meal at the big house whilst worshipping at the feet of the Liberties clique.

Even cunts like you have to admit that serious errors were made today but keep on denying everything you fucking gimp and eventually we will win something.[/QUOTE]

Batt you get ridicule here quite a bit I even passed a smart comment your way a couple of weeks back myself. What it is batt is I want to know the source of your ire and dissatisfaction with Limerick hurling? What are the problems as you see them? This is not a smartarse post batt , this is a genuine inquiry. Maybe you can shed some light on some things the regular Limerick hurling supporters are not aware of.