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Clare always raise their game for Limerick pal, itās fantasy stuff thinking that they will simply fold against us in Thurles.
What do you want Joe? What are you doing in this thread?
[QUOTE=āBreaking my balls, post: 1114328, member: 2493ā]I would also bring Richie English, Diarmuid Byrnes, Kevin OāBrien, Barry OāConnell, Alan Dempsey, David Dempsey, Dean Coleman, Darragh OāDonovan into the panel next week and keep them on for the year with a view to developing another option in each line of the field from that group. If they are not up to it fair enough but i feel A Dempsey, English, OāConnell and K OāBrien in particular are better than some current options.
The day after the Leaving finishes id be on the phone to B Nash, R Lynch and ALTC at least.[/QUOTE]
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[QUOTE=āglasagusban, post: 1114380, member: 1533ā]Iām the opposite of @dodgy-keeper, Iām more pissed off about missing promotion than the performance today which was meaningless. Lads need to recall weāve been dire at this stage of the year the last few years and it hasnāt affected us come summer. In particular, certain lads have been fairly badly out of shape at this stage the last few years, but theyāll be flying by summer again. It shouldnāt be that way but it is.
I thought going into this year we needed to find three more players, a half back, a corner back and a forward. Iād have moved hickey out but Condon may do at half back, Iād have had Dempsey given a shot at a starting place but I think walsh is a good defender, and lynch up front is ready I think. Unfortunately I wouldnāt trust most of the other players weāve tried to come in and thrive come summer. I think management are holding their breath until a few more minors finish school.
I think weāll be competitive again come summer, I think weāll have the beating of most teams on our day and weāll reach a semi final again. But I donāt think weāve improved enough to seriously challenge for an AI.
Perhaps the biggest disappointment of this league is the lack of sophistication in our play compared to other top teams. Most teams have some semblance of a plan about them, our gameplan is marginally better looking than a bunch of retards trying to fuck a doorknob. It might be we can sort this out come summer too because I think we have 6 forwards that can shred any defence if out team is prepared right.[/QUOTE]
Stop making excuses for limerick hurlers bring fat 7 weeks before the Munster championship.
Thatās a bizarre stance.
Who gives a fuck if they will have trimmed down by then or if they did so before the issue is they are not being prepared properly, the whe ethos of preparation is wrong within the group and they are not acting like professionals if they allow themselves be that shape at any stage of a calendar year let alone going into April.
So do we at this stage.
[QUOTE=āglasagusban, post: 1114415, member: 1533ā]I agree with the thrust of that post, but thereās a few things:
Dodge doesnāt have 70 minutes in him and definitely not at centre back. Wayne will be 6 come summer, you and everyone may as well accept it. He bring a lot of positives but will have the odd mistake. We donāt have another potential 6, except hickey IMO.
Paudie not a wing back.
Youāre way too hard on Walsh, I donāt know why. Heās an unspectacular and unflashy corner back but heās a good defender. Iād actually consider him more reliable than Condon in the corner.
Hannon will be good come summer.
Breen had a poor game today, I hope he can get his confidence back up, he is an effective player when at his best.
Youāre right on Downes. We need him at his best if weāre to do anything. Iād blame management a bit for his downward trend in form last season, confidence seemed to drain out of him as the summer progressed.[/QUOTE]
My issue with Wayne at 6 is that we will go no further than we did last year or 2013 with him there. Today was a prime example. He is too headless. He over carries the ball and is a bit too slow and ponderous on the ball. It is not an odd mistake, he is consistent in coughing up at leadt three of them a game. Blatant, horrible ones. He is wholehearted, physical, has great heart but i just dont think he is good enough at 6.
Walsh makes a lot of mistakes too. He also over carries the ball. Did it 3 times today. Condon is far better imo. Always comes out with the ball. People say he is prone to mistakes but when they are asked for examples they cant highlight any. I feel Seanie OāBrien can bring great pace to the full back line. He is a better hurler than Walsh.
Breen doesnt have the hurling. Again today it showed when Hannon gave him the pass. Whipping wildly at the ball ffs. Simply not good enough.
The question is do we want to go a step further? Do we want to win an All Ireland? Last year showed we are not far off. So ask yourself what is the problem? It has fuck all to do with Croke Park, we gave KK bags of it last year and performed. We fell short because we are short 3 players. Will we win an All Ireland continuing with these players? Absolutely not. Thats my point.
Iād be inclined to agree with this hbv, and kk have unfortunately dictated that a de facto professional set up and approach is a requirement at the sharp end.
More is the pity b
[QUOTE=āBreaking my balls, post: 1114440, member: 2493ā]My issue with Wayne at 6 is that we will go no further than we did last year or 2013 with him there. Today was a prime example. He is too headless. He over carries the ball and is a bit too slow and ponderous on the ball. It is not an odd mistake, he is consistent in coughing up at leadt three of them a game. Blatant, horrible ones. He is wholehearted, physical, has great heart but i just dont think he is good enough at 6.
Walsh makes a lot of mistakes too. He also over carries the ball. Did it 3 times today. Condon is far better imo. Always comes out with the ball. People say he is prone to mistakes but when they are asked for examples they cant highlight any. I feel Seanie OāBrien can bring great pace to the full back line. He is a better hurler than Walsh.
Breen doesnt have the hurling. Again today it showed when Hannon gave him the pass. Whipping wildly at the ball ffs. Simply not good enough.
The question is do we want to go a step further? Do we want to win an All Ireland? Last year showed we are not far off. So ask yourself what is the problem? It has fuck all to do with Croke Park, we gave KK bags of it last year and performed. We fell short because we are short 3 players. Will we win an All Ireland continuing with these players? Absolutely not. Thats my point.[/QUOTE]
I agree 100%, I was chatting to the father of one of the minors from last year and they have asked will he join the panel in June.
Walsh, McNamara and Breen not good enough, Breen is fooking awful and it has been that way for a long time.
What was the issue with above post? Do u not agree we should attempt to develop new players? Kevin OāDonnell another obvious one but no interest in hurling inter county im told?
Whatever I want. I am doing no harm
[QUOTE=āBreaking my balls, post: 1114440, member: 2493ā]My issue with Wayne at 6 is that we will go no further than we did last year or 2013 with him there. Today was a prime example. He is too headless. He over carries the ball and is a bit too slow and ponderous on the ball. It is not an odd mistake, he is consistent in coughing up at leadt three of them a game. Blatant, horrible ones. He is wholehearted, physical, has great heart but i just dont think he is good enough at 6.
Walsh makes a lot of mistakes too. He also over carries the ball. Did it 3 times today. Condon is far better imo. Always comes out with the ball. People say he is prone to mistakes but when they are asked for examples they cant highlight any. I feel Seanie OāBrien can bring great pace to the full back line. He is a better hurler than Walsh.
Breen doesnt have the hurling. Again today it showed when Hannon gave him the pass. Whipling wildly at the ball ffs. Simply not good enough.
The question is do we want to go a step further? Do we want to win an All Ireland? Last year showed we are not far off. So ask yourself what is the problem? It has fuck all to do with Croke Park, we gave KK bags of it last year and performed. We fell short because we are short 3 players. Will we win an All Ireland continuing with these players? Absolutely not. Thats my point.[/QUOTE]
Itās an old point.
Dodge is not the answer at 6. In fact, over last yearās championship Wayne was the best performer of our half back line. By a distance.
Condon mistakes led directly to goals for Cork and Kk last year. There they are pointed to. Walsh is solid.
Youāre part right on Breen, I keep saying the same thing, heās no world beater but is highly effective when he plays well. He had a decent season last summer. You need at least one player like him to provide a bit of ballast in the half forwards. Downes might actually be able to perform the same role but better.
[QUOTE=āHBV*, post: 1114436, member: 234ā]Stop making excuses for limerick hurlers bring fat 7 weeks before the Munster championship.
Thatās a bizarre stance.
Who gives a fuck if they will have trimmed down by then or if they did so before the issue is they are not being prepared properly, the whe ethos of preparation is wrong within the group and they are not acting like professionals if they allow themselves be that shape at any stage of a calendar year let alone going into April.[/QUOTE]
Who the fuck are you?
[QUOTE=āBreaking my balls, post: 1114440, member: 2493ā]My issue with Wayne at 6 is that we will go no further than we did last year or 2013 with him there. Today was a prime example. He is too headless. He over carries the ball and is a bit too slow and ponderous on the ball. It is not an odd mistake, he is consistent in coughing up at leadt three of them a game. Blatant, horrible ones. He is wholehearted, physical, has great heart but i just dont think he is good enough at 6.
Walsh makes a lot of mistakes too. He also over carries the ball. Did it 3 times today. Condon is far better imo. Always comes out with the ball. People say he is prone to mistakes but when they are asked for examples they cant highlight any. I feel Seanie OāBrien can bring great pace to the full back line. He is a better hurler than Walsh.
Breen doesnt have the hurling. Again today it showed when Hannon gave him the pass. Whipling wildly at the ball ffs. Simply not good enough.
The question is do we want to go a step further? Do we want to win an All Ireland? Last year showed we are not far off. So ask yourself what is the problem? It has fuck all to do with Croke Park, we gave KK bags of it last year and performed. We fell short because we are short 3 players. Will we win an All Ireland continuing with these players? Absolutely not. Thats my point.[/QUOTE]
I agree with you 100% re Wayne and Breen, both sound honest lads but Wayne is a number 5 and Breen really is only a good impact sub option. Hannon was obviously tried for a couple of games at CB but that was a complete disaster. If we donāt sort out a CB and start winning balls in the forwards we are on a hiding to nothing in the summer. We continually fail to win the 50/50 balls which puts massive pressure on the back six.
[QUOTE=āBreaking my balls, post: 1114403, member: 2493ā]Imagine it, using Championship as opposed to League as a barometer. Crazy stuff.
Project X might be a few tugs short of a wank, but i find it funny that we have lads on here bleating after a league defeat who are from counties who wouldnt keep it pucked out to us come Championship. We battered ye in third gear for fuck sake! As flashy and all as Tipp look, and they are a very good side, they cant manage this Limerick side in Championship and whats more is they know it.[/QUOTE]
Tipperary won the last knock out game between the two counties by a cricket score pal.
No point in hurling a storm in munster then shitting the togs once they get past the red cow.
How long was Hannon at 11 today? It was hard to tell, he was so peripheral. I think itās his best position for sure, but if weāre not getting the best out of him there, it really hurts the team. You can certainly see why TJ is trying Breen there, Breen is a very strong āball-carrierā. The thing is that heās not great at catching the ball cleanly and heās not a natural forward in general imo. I do admire his work rate and I do think that without him, we look very light.
But if Hannon isnāt going well at 11, Iād rather Downes there than anybody else. I get that Gavin has been tried there but Downes brings the pace and power that Breen has, but heās a much better natural hurler and heās strong in the air. He didnāt have a good year last year but I think centre-forward is his best position.
[QUOTE=āMullach Ide, post: 1114451, member: 141ā]Tipperary won the last knock out game between the two counties by a cricket score pal.
No point in hurling a storm in munster then shitting the togs once they get past the red cow.[/QUOTE]
In fairness, this Croke Park shitting the togs theory is outdated. We turned up against a quality KK side in the semi-final up there last year and were a puck of a ball away from beating them.
The only sensible post has been boxty highlighting the lack of onfield leaders and by extension the number of shapers that are wearing green
The venga boys are coming
Lah la la lah
New York to San Francisco la la la lah al
and everybodyās jumping lah la lah al
Sheer brilliance. One of my all time favourite songs of a Friday afternoon.
And the bit about the goat.