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Absolutely both horrific, but Iā€™m not sure why the club would keep something front and centre that they should be ashamed of. There is a permanent remembrance memorial at Anfield, there is an annual memorial at the ground. Liverpool fans were jailed. The club was banned. Stadium issues, which was a knock on effect of the trouble caused, changed dramatically afterwards. Was justice served? Maybe, something at least came of it all and it wasnt swept under the carpet.

Hillsborough was entirely different. A horrific accident was caused through a shit load of mistakes by police and the FA, yet for 30 years, nothing was done. As Tony Evans also points out, 2 deaths at the Manchester Arena would have been saved had findings and proposals arising from Hillsborough been implemented. The fact that the families had to fight the justice system for years to try get something done is a scandal. That for years fans would be taunted by opposition supporters about killing their own, robbing their own and believing the lies of the Tory government and tabloid rags. It makes a lot of sense that Hillsborough is a lot more in focus than Heysel in Liverpool. That doesnt make it right or anything, but it just explains any logic behind it.

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A very sensible post there. 100%.

Some form of justice was served (and quite quickly in relative terms) in the case of Heysel. The memorial stuff is there, but itā€™s Juventusā€™ tragedy to deal with. I donā€™t think the club quite knows what to do with it. They can mourn but they canā€™t be front and centre in that grieving process, given the actions of some of their ā€˜fansā€™ almost 40 years ago. Liverpool fans didnā€™t lose their lives in Heysel. A different context admittedly, but large scale memorials might be akin to Americans having a big memorial annually for the bombing of Hiroshima (perhaps they do?). It would seem a little tone deaf.

Oooooft

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Lads digging up tweet replies from 2019 :laughing:

Rent. free.

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Not just Juventus mate, there were neutrals killed too, French, Irish & Belgium people died

@Little_Lord_Fauntleroy is worked up to a frenzy putting up Union Jack bunting ahead of the Platinum Jubilee

Coach Klopp has him defending the British Empire.

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From a Celtic supporter, no less.

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Lolz, this is where the footix is at now, stomping on the diaspora

Amazing how the diaspora in Edinburgh are shunned for the more successful Glasgow club. Terrible footix behaviour altogether.

Irish clubs all over the world but yeah letā€™s support the team in a league that is so competitive that the biggest competition is to see who wins 10 in a row first.

eh, they ditched their irishness in the 50s mate, i wont forget that

Irish Professional Clubs all over the world?

Arecyou unaware? Thought an expert on the diaspora would have the requisite knowledge when passing judgement on Paddy footix.

Thereā€™s one in Glasgow that ruins the careers of Irish players and is bankrolled by a billionaire FFG crony.

why so snappy mate, its just a question

the best ever Irish team was backboned by Celtic players mate

They shouldnā€™t as such, but they constantly mention one without the other. I donā€™t think they can or should have it both ways. Thatā€™s just an opinion, but to keep (rightly) revisiting the horror of Hillsborough whilst rarely mentioning hasel seems, I donā€™t know, the word, but it jars.

Might have. That is absolute conjecture.

Most of us English find it very odd the way Paddy gets so invested and involved in our soccer teams. If Paddy wants to do so, thatā€™s his prerogative. There are some ground rules though. Booing our future King/Head of the Establishment Church and our National Anthem is not okay.

thats fair enough imho, paddy footix should show some respect