Everybody, absolutely everybody knows youâre right but youâre wasting your time
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If they needed to balance the books why hold onto Coutnhio and buy van dyke
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Ooooft
In isolation it looks like an enormous spend but FSG have sanctioned it because of what Klopp has achieved with very little outlay to date, roughly about 20-30 million. Van Dijk and Keita transfer will bring his net spend to 150m. If they sell Coutinho then his net spend will still be about 20m. For this spend Klopp will have brought a team that finished in 6th place to the knock out stages of the Champions League and competing to finish in Champions League places again. This is a great achievement when competing agains the finacial clout/doping of City, Utd and Chelsea. While Coutinho will be a loss there will still be an impressive squad left with the likes of Keita, Mane, Saha and Van Dijk added and all for a cut price of 20-30m.
Coutinho was signed in the Rodgers era.
Liverpool rejected his transfer request in the summer. You were saying earlier that it was down to the manager that players didnât want to leave and Iâve pointed out to you that is competely false. Key players have tried to leave under Klopp too, the only difference has been the board have backed Klopp where they didnât with the last manager.
There is nothing they can do with the Can situation as heâll be out of contract in the summer. Youâre all over the shop here.
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Do tell us what Klopp has achieved mate? As far as I can tell he has won nothing with Liverpool.
Klopp must be laughing his hole off, being one of the highest paid managers in the world with achieving nothing as his objective.
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For a net spend of cÂŁ20m, Conte brought Chelsea to a title from a 10th place finish in less that 12 months.
For a net spend of cÂŁ20m, Ranieri brought Leicester from 14th to the title in less than 12 months.
With a net spend of around ÂŁ100m now, it looks inevitable that Klopp still wonât have been able to achieve that, around 3 seasons later.
I donât see what is so impressive about reaching the group stages of the CL. Liverpoolâs squad was far and away the most expensively assembled squad in the group they got.
@mikehunt using facts and reasoned analysis and laying @Nembo_Kid bare is a sight to behold. He is fighting the fight on his terms
He is not getting involved in the brawl and using his jab of truth and body blow of logic to bring @Nembo_Kid to a standing count
Unlike finacial dopers Chelsea and City, Liverpool have to balance financial sustainability with on-field success. Klopp has taken a team that finished 6th to 4th and to the Champions League knock out stages. In his first full season his points total was 76 compared to 62 in Rodgersâ last season. He did this with a net spend of close to zero. While he may not have won trophies there is considerable progress. Along with the 14 point improvement Klopp is also able to attract the likes of Vn Dijk and Oxlade Chamberlain even though serial dopers Chelsea and City were interested.
The myopic and instant demands for success from the likes of Chelsea, City and United who sack managers and splash considerable sums of money is sustainable for clubs with unlimited cash but this wouldnât be viable for the likes of Liverpool, Spurs and Arsenal. FSG are seeing incredible progress since Klopp arrived and he has assembled an attack feared across Europe. The Van Dijk signing is an attempt to improve an at times shaky defence. It is a work in progress but the signs are promising.
Facts and reasoned analysis back my argument and collapse anything a KOK will say.
Itâs almost as if @Nembo_Kid decided to follow Chelsea so he could reiterate over and over and over and over again how they had finished 10th the year they disgracefully downed tools in a fashion never seen before in the history of football,
Odd that you refer to Chelsea as serial dopers and reference balancing books and such when Liverpool have a much higher net spend under Klopp than Chelsea have had under Conte.
Klopp despite being paid far more than his predecessor who got the chop, failing to win a trophy or mount a serious league challenge and doing so with immense backing from the board, both financially and being supported in keeping his best players, has still won nothing yet and people are lauding him for it.
Itâs a cult.
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Itâs strange how a Roma fan is so obsessed with what managers have won
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United have had 4 managers in about 30 years.
City have had 4 managers in the last 9 years - the same as Spurs and one less than Liverpool.
Youâre all over the shop, a bit like a Jurgen Klopp defence.
Iâm not obsessed at what managers have won, certain posters are obsessed with making excuses up for one of the highest paid managers in the world at one of the richest clubs in the world being unsuccessful in his current job.
3 in the last 4 years
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And Liverpool have had 3 in the last 5.
Hardly that big a departure.
Why does he need excuses? Heâs on course to get them top 4 two seasons in a row with steady improvement in that time. You bizarrely seem to be saying that he should be doing better than Conte given his net spend is currently more when Van Dijk hasnât even played a game for them yet and heâs the reason the net spend is higher
Klopp is earning more money because he is a better manager. Rodgersâ option of going for the easy option of Celtic is at odds with Klopp, who went for the difficult option of trying to return a big club to former glories. He could have taken the soft option and waited for a handy number at a financial doper like Chelsea.
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