Manchester United 2022/23 - The Reign of ETH

A traffic light system :joy::joy:.

Ffs sake.

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Also, Maguire should definitely be lower.

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My first impressions is Mata is very hard done by. Lindelof is a tad harsh as well. How is Maguire an Amber. Herrera was a good signing. No way you can have Fernandes as a green and him an amber. That is a joke. It is some roll call.

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You genuinely could have nobody in the green. That is absolutely phenomenal :smiley:
I think that is the biggest argument against the glazers. They are ultimately responsible for that shit show

Ah Fernandes has been a far better player for Man Utd than Herrera. He was the sole reason they finished top 4 in 2020 following his January arrival and he backed it up the following season with about 18 league goals in a team that finished 2nd.

Mata wasnā€™t bad per se but I thought he was a tremendous signing when he arrived and he never really hit the heights like he had done during Chelseaā€™s Champions League winning season in 2012.

Maguire is largely viewed as a laughing stock. Itā€™s mad that heā€™s managed to squeeze into the Amber section. Fred is a very fortunate Amber too.

But in all seriousness Malcolm or Joe Glazer probably never heard of 90% of those players. Signing of players was probably in conjunction with their world class scouting network, chief executive, and manager whoever it was at any given point in time. They are playing with a patchwork quilt of players scattered over several managerial tenures each with different philosophies so it is little wonder the players havent performed. If they hung onto Moyes back along it is a safe bet they would be in a better place than they are now. Graham Potter seems to be the new David Moyes like figure that some people are extolling at the moment.

Ah no the point is they are ultimately responsible for hiring all those scouts, chief executives etc who are patently not any good at their job. They are making a complete fuck of running the organisation.

Agreed, that was very harsh on Mata.

And they want sign off on all major signings.

Matt Judge and Ed Woodward were appointed by them and they are almost completely to blame for the useless recruitment strategy.

@Tierneevin1979 used to tell us that capitalism was infallible because it ensured meritocracy and efficient use of resources.

He had clearly never heard about what was going on at Manchester United.

Yeah. Man Utd is the only badly managed commercial entity operating under capitalism. I forgot that.

Is Gary Neville in the habit of attacking of other owners on his Sky Sports platform, like the Saudi Arabian owned Newcastle, the Abu Dhabi owned Manchester City, Chelsea over the last 17/18 years when they were owned by the Russian State or Putinā€™s buddy, Alisher Usmanov at Everton? Or is it just the Glazers at Man U that heā€™s given a platform to mouth off about.

Huh? My point was the opposite - that capitalism is inherently unmeritocratic and inefficient.

Gary and Carra wary theyā€™ll meet the English lads down the club

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Bruno is very good at getting on the end of moves but isnā€™t a great midfield player in the traditional sense.

The counter attacking approach suited him under Ole.

This just sums the club up.

I get the feeling that the Premier League, through its media juggernaut of which Sky as the primary broadcast partner is the most important component, is happy to foment opposition to the Glazers and make that the story, as a sort of mudguard to shield the much worse owners of other clubs, namely Abu Dhabi at Manchester City and especially Saudi Arabia at Newcastle.

Opposition to the Glazers and it being the story benefits the Premier League. The media juggernaut can spin it as ā€œordinary local fans fighting for their club, this shows just what it means to the grass rootsā€. Itā€™s actually a marketing tool.

Whereas if the media juggernaut trained its sights on the murderers, torturers, slaveholders and despots of Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi, that would be much more problematic for the suits at the Premier League.

The media juggernaut even had the gall to spin the Saudis buying Newcastle as a victory for local, grass roots fans, a real feel good story.

Sick.

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Iā€™m not so sure. Man City and Newcastle are delighted with their owners. Man united fans arenā€™t happy and have ex players in the media as well which is huge.

What they shouldā€™ve done this summer was buy Rice and the lad from Leeds who went to City. Park them in front of Maguire like England did. Wouldve made them competitive.

The point is Gary Neville is allowed free rein by the Premier League, through Sky, to foment as much dissent as he likes against the Glazers.

To actually be honest on the subject.

The Premier League, through Sky, will not allow dissent to be fomented against Saudi Arabia and Abu Dhabi.

Some of the Sky coverage of the Saudi takeover at Newcastle was so propaganda like it wouldnā€™t have looked out of place on Russian state television.