Manchester United 21/22

He tried to buy it with PSG but failed

indeed, you’re so rattled that your punctuation has gone to shite. Perhaps you should step away from the keyboard for a while.

i dont think many French teams win the CL mate

Conte has a solid record but his dreadful record in Europe would have him a few rungs below the top tier coaches likes Klopp and Guardiola.

Fine achievement winning the league in his first season at Chelsea in 2016/17 but it was a much different landscape then and a much lower standard than now. Leicester were reigning champions and little old Spurs were the closest challengers that season. Guardiola had just taken over at City and had to clear out all the deadwood and a recently appointed Klopp was doing the same at Liverpool. Conte still had nearly all of the Chelsea title winning team of 2014/15 at his disposal and got in Kante, the best player of the Leicester title winning team as well.

Guardiola had sorted things out by season 2 and in 2017/18, Citeh posted 100 points to win the league, Chelsea finished 30 points behind on 70 in 5th and Conte quit.

Would Conte be able to live with the heat of a fully revved up Klopp, Guardiola and Tuchel?

Never had you as a The Guardian football podcast listener.

yes, love bandini, she is great on italian football & Sid is pretty good on Spain

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you missed Tuchel mate?

Tuchel needs to win a league in England to properly earn his stripes. You’re really only in the ranks of the great coaches with an English league title and European Cup.

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cool, he will do it this season

Looking at the goals there this morning. United were poor all over defensively, but every single Liverpool goal came, in some way shape or form, from a man being completely unmarked in the United left back area.

To be fair a lot of them were not entirely Luke Shaws fault, he had tucked in for some and Rashford gave him zero cover.

  1. Liverpool escape United’s press very easily, leaving half the United midfield in no mans land. Shaw is somehow two on one with Salah & Keita in the centre half spot, there’s an acre of space on the left hand side, and an acre on the right, Salah had options either side. Shaw played on Salah in behind the two centre halves but it was a shit show all over. Two united centre halves on the missing list
  2. Shaw and Maguire run into each other. Salah slips it to TAA who is in an acre in the left back slot to pull it across for a simple tap in, no sign of Rashford the supposed left midfielder at all in the picture. Two Liverpool players unmarked in the box, either of whom could have tapped it in. No centre half within touching distance of either.
  3. Liverpool play a few passes. There’s a bounce off a Salah shot, to Keita who is… in the left back zone completely unmarked. Rashford & Fred had been tracking him earlier but both left him off. Rashford was nowhere at all for a finish. Fred was inside marking no one.
  4. Liverpool play a few passes. Bobby F does some good work, ball breaks, pass, pass, to the left back slot where…Salah is totally unmarked. Shaw is in centre half, Rashford is in the corner of the screen in no mans land.
  5. Pogba gives it away handy. Whipped in behind Luke Shaw to the left back spot, where again Salah has a march on him into an acre and finishes. TBF, that was a hard one to defend against a man in Mo’s form. It was the sloppy give away as much as the space.

But it’s fairly clear, United are a shambles at the back, McFredinnay are two shit defensive midfielders, neither one capable of doing a decent job on their own, and even together are found out against better opponents.
Playing two defensive midfielders and a back four means you should be sound defensively, but Ole then named 4 forwards basically. So some sort of 4-2-0-3-1.
Therefore despite playing 6 defensive players they were constantly outnumbered at the back as the front four did nothing for them defensively. They were also over ran in midfield because they had no one in there. And Robinson and TAA had the freedom of the park down either wing, because again no one there. Shaw was basically 2 on one against Salah and TAA for the game.

There are problems all over at United.

  1. Signing Ronaldo was a folly, He’ll score 20-25 goals this season but you are basically playing with ten men for every game. Cavani would score 10 - 15 goals if given the same opportunity and would work his bollox off for the team. United were a much better side with him in the team.
  2. United poor transfer policy continues to haunt them. What’s the point of Pogba if he isn’t better than Fred or McTominay. Ole was probably right not to start him, but if he was then what purpose does he serve? If DVB isn’t better than Fred or McTominay then what the fuck happened him? United didn’t need CR7, they needed a defensive mid. It’s been clear for seasons. Sancho scratching his hole as well.
  3. Some of the players clearly aren’t good enough.
  4. Ole is tactically inept. He sat down thought about it long and hard and decided that the best way to curtail the on fire Mo Salah, was Shaw and Rashford. I mean LOL.

Anyway long may Ole reign

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Chelsea had just spent in excess of €250 million about 6 months before Tuchel took charge on Werner, Ziyech, Havertz, Mendy etc. He didn’t exactly inherit a shell of a team.

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Luke Shaw :smile:

250 million sterling spent by Chelsea on the back of losses of £110 in the previous financial year and in the midst of a global pandemic. They’re a very shady and sinister operation.

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Whereas spurs is owned by a holding company run through the Bahamas…
:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

Agreed.
Cantona.
Le Boss.

Get Eric back.

Wayne Rooney doing a fine job in very difficult circumstances at Derby. Just 3 defeats in 14 league matches.

Manchester United could do a lot worse than revive the Rooney/Ronaldo partnership.

Coventry v Derby last Saturday could yet be viewed as an audition for the Manchester United manager’s job, with another United legend Mark Robins flying high with Coventry.

Both men passed the test with flying colours, in a keenly contested 1-1 draw.

A Rooney v Robins penalty competition to settle it?

Giggsy must be regretting the auld assaulting, he surely would have been in line.

one training session he turned a mid table epl team into champions of europe

lets not undersell this

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