Munster Rugby - We DID start the fire (Part 1)

Especially calling a rugby player overweight, which is completely baseless

Dave Kilcoyne isn’t fat, just big boned.

They should hire Trevor Brennan to assist with this problem

The usual silence from Gil here

The doctor was a couple of years behind me in school.

Surely a career low for him - how did he end up having to work in Limerick

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Is he another Leinster reject who rocked up at Thomond Park?

He’d be at home with Beirne, Conway and co.

Truth brother. Ending up in Limerick is the lowest of the low.

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Aren’t you banging a Limerick bird?

Not in Limerick though.

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Seemingly he called some fat cunt a fat cunt. The fat shaming cunt.

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you’re sticking your Willy in Limerick every week .

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Young wans under him can testify to that . How much

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Regular COTY nominee Billy Keane heralding Munster as heroes after their defeat on Saturday - Munster lost without even picking up a losers bonus point.

There have always been Munster and Irish heroes in North London.

The Irish emigrants worked a six-day week in times when there was very little heavy machinery and trenches were dug by pick and shovel. These men and women took care of their families first and foremost in times when the only viable industries back home were suitcase factories.

Their sons, daughters and grandkids have benefited from the daily acts of valour. The North London Irish are more Irish than most of us here in Ireland.

They follow Munster as an expression of their love of home and home is Ireland. So many of the Irish who happened to be born in Britain inveigled their way into the Saracens’ home ground on Saturday.

In the end Saracens deservedly won but Munster were only a little bit the lesser team. There was no opt-outs and the game was played with a savage intensity.

Jean Kleyn now understands his role. He was well able for the charging Billy Vunipola. Kleyn picked him out every time and downed him every time.

Kleyn’s performance is an accurate measure of where Munster are right now. Last year in the semi-final he was blown away by Maro Itoje, the Vunipolas and George Kruis. But our biggest player stood up to the big boys and it was only when an exhausted Kleyn was called ashore that Billy Vunipola took over.

Ball-stripping

Our other big man, Chris Farrell, may well have played his way on to the Irish team. His tackling and ball-stripping were of the highest quality. He reads the game well. Farrell’s cut-outs sent the ball express to the wings.

Rugby today is all about who comes out best in the “dominant collisions”. In other words which team gets the most go-forward in the tackles after carries.

There is an old GAA adage that goes ‘good big men are better than good small men’. Farrell is 17 stone plus of a good big man.

It might have been a plan to play him at seven for the Saracens scrum that led to Billy Vunipola panicking four Munster players into tackling him before he got away a skilful offload. Rugby needs to bring in the type of flexible interchanging of roles we see so often in the GAA.

Ireland must stay innovative and imaginative to stay in touch .

The European Cup was the best new rugby idea of my time. The European games have become a highlight and a shortener of the Irish wintertime. Our men in red are only marginally less popular than Santa. The Munster team of this winter is better than the losing semi-final teams. The irony is Munster may not qualify for the knockout stages.

The bonus point was there for Munster. They decided to go for touch from a penalty a few minutes from time even though a try would not have put Munster in front. Munster would probably have got the ball back from the restart if they took the kick at goal.

The other side of the argument is that Allianz Park is wide open to the elements as there are no high walls or stands at the back of and to the sides of the goals. Owen Farrell, the surest penalty converter of them all, had a very bad night off the tee.

Munster can still qualify. There are as many possible scenarios as there are Brexit solutions.

Here’s a long shot. Munster might even get through as one of the three fastest losers with a bonus point in Paris and a bonus win at home over the Ospreys.

What about a begging letter from the Munster supporters to the Ospreys? It could go along the lines of the Christmas school report: ‘Please try harder’.

The Ospreys will have their Welsh stars back for the next round against Saracens at home in Wales.

We would remind the Ospreys Saracens broke the financial rules of their own league and gained an unfair advantage.

Saracens will claim the big scrap that broke out between the teams in the second half got their boys all fired up. Dr Jamie Kearns is in some trouble over his pitchside manner. Dr Kearns is a dedicated professional who goes beyond the call of duty for his Munster players.

There would have been no trouble if Saracens waited until after the game to register their protest, Then again, Saracens don’t exactly do rules, do they?

The real reasons for the defeat are easier to identify. Munster’s bench had to be called upon very early in the game due to the injuries to Tadhg Beirne and John Ryan. The team just wore out from what Saracens coach Mark McCall described as “one of the best defensive efforts seen in this place.”

Peter O’Mahony was a massive loss but the truth is Munster are still just a little bit behind Saracens.

A glorious defeat is a far better outcome than an inglorious loss. Munster were organised and well coached. But what stood out for me was the Munster courage and the Munster fight.

I am certain the extraordinary heroes who worked so hard in North London and beyond to make a better life for their families would recognise and approve of the Munster heroism, against all the odds.

That is some pile of scutter. Stealing a living.

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Minus Kilcoyne, Beirne, Pom and Carberry I thought that was a decent effort against a very good side.

Did the Brave & Faithful lose? Haven’t been following this thread for a while. I’m shocked.

The thread name doesn’t lie - specialists in failure.

Keith “Woody” Wood was heaping praise on Munster on Off The Ball last night, a superb performance in the face of “the most difficult thing ever” (an odd choice of phrase I felt, one that Woody used a couple of times).