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Not even close.

Probably but he wasn’t a political activist. What other politicians or causes should he have tried to get over the line during his career?

If he got Gantt over the line could he have just left it at that one and then concentrated on the ol’ basketball/becoming the greatest athlete ever or should he have then kept an eye on each election coming up, local, state, national, congress, senate, presidential?

Why?

Neither are anywhere near Jordan in terms of profile or popular culture impact. Jordan has name recognition the world over that those two could only dream of. Neither really transcend their sports in any meaningful way.

David Beckham then?

What level of activism would have satisfied you so he wasn’t classified by someone like you as an uncle tom? Dipping in and out of elections to get whoever was designated as the ‘black’ candidate voted in or full on MLK, Ali, Kapernick levels? Should he have started giving lectures? Whats the threshold here? Does he then knock it on the head if he notices any dip in performance?

He transcended football alright at his peak and has done a lot of good work fronting campaigns for the likes of Unicef and drawing peoples attention to poverty around the world and showed a bit of empathy for his fellow man.

And? That is par for the course for any wealthy athlete in the US and nothing out of the ordinary. Jordan wasn’t any average pro athlete he is one of the greats of all time across any sport who is known all over the world by people who have no interest in sport or have never seen a basketball game. He made his mark both inside and outside the game and had a huge popular cultural impact but he had the opportunity to do so much more and simply decided that it wasn’t for him as it wasn’t going to benefit him directly.

You are entitled to find that admiral I find it rather disappointing.

You called him an uncle Tom mate

Yes and I stand by it due to his republicans but sneakers too comment.

If you stand for nothing you can be bought for anything.

He stood for winning. Ask anyone from Chicago what he stood for or anyone who appreciates sport in general. Disappointing afrophobic whiff to your comments here. Phelps/Federer can do whatever they like, Becham is the greatest thing since sliced bread he even worked with unicef omg, but MJ is an Uncle Tom. There’s a difference between him and the others there alright

Anyone watch White Lines?

Like I said earlier if there was an Irish nationalist who had a similar profile to Jordan at the same time and he decided to keep their mouth shut so not to upset unionists which might be bad for business rather than speak up for a peace process and progress I think they would be rightly called out for it.

Transcendent players like Jordan only come about a few times a century. Like I say if people want to respect him for his single mindedness then go ahead but I think it is somewhat disappointing that all he really cared about was himself.

He told a joke

Exactly, and that’s why their a pair of cunts.

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That is your take on it. It was a quip but going on what we saw if the man it was a fair reflection of his mindset.

I loosely watched 3/4 episodes. May or may not return. Interesting enough fare.
The buck that’s trying to launch the casino is a watery bollocks and the mother is a ride.

Beckham was a dimwitted above average soccer player who married a cunt determined to create a brand. There is no comparison with Jordan.

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Necessary to be successful.