Celtic vs Aberdeen in R5 of the Cup
Nir Biton looks like heāll be a good player for us. Classy, composed and always looking for a forward pass.
Lennon hinted that he is going to focus on British players in the January transfer window, he made particular reference to the young Dundee United players - presumably Gauld, Soutar, Armstrong and Mackay-Steven. We have Boerrigter and Sammy so donāt need Mackay-Steven. Souttar would probably be a decent option as we are not heavily stocked at centre back, havenāt seen much of him either. Donāt know an awful lot about Armstrong but Iād suspect he is nothing to write home about. Iād also suspect Gauld is out of our reach given the clubs that are now following him.
I suspect we will be looking at players from the Championship and SPL, think we need a right winger who can compete with Forrest, a striker, a centre back and a central midfielder.
We should be looking to loan out Balde, Rogic and McGeouch to SPL clubs.
Been linked with James Vaughan and Danny Ings.
Think Ings would be out of our price range. Vaughan seems to be doing really well at the minute so I would suspect Huddersfield would be looking for a fee not worth paying. Both seem like decent players who would come into the team and improve it but I donāt think weāll be meeting the asking price for either.
Linked with some Japanese chap who is available on a free transfer. Lennon also confirmed that we are interested in James Vaughan
And weāve also apparently agreed a deal with Partick to sign Sinclair in January.
He looks a really good player, available on a free as well.
[quote=āRudi, post: 869769, member: 1052ā]Been linked with James Vaughan and Danny Ings.
Think Ings would be out of our price range. Vaughan seems to be doing really well at the minute so I would suspect Huddersfield would be looking for a fee not worth paying. Both seem like decent players who would come into the team and improve it but I donāt think weāll be meeting the asking price for either.[/quote]
Vaughan was dreadfully unlucky with injury at Everton, and after a promising start to his career he fell down the pecking order behind players like Yakubu and Saha. Granted, they were both more talented players, but they were also exceptionally lazy in their final couple of years at the club, something Vaughan could never be accused of.
Yeah, he seems to be doing well and will probably be back in the Premier League pretty shortly. Iād imagine he would do well if he went to Celtic but Iād say he is out of our price range and heās definitely not worth the type of money being touted.
Besides we have Mo Bangura coming back anyway.
Whatās going on over in Celtic?
The Green Brigade have finally been moved towards extinction by Celtic FC. And notably few among the clubās wider, vast fanbase have come forth to express any sorrow.
The tipping-point was the disgusting and yobbish behaviour by certain Celtic fans at Fir Park last Friday night. To see the way seats were kicked-in in that stadium, and the grisly photographic evidence afterwards, was one of the greatest humiliations heaped on Celtic in years.
Doubts remain as to whether they were specific Green Brigade members, but the miscreants were within their space, behind their banners, and to all intents were a part of a noisy Green Brigade presence.
Peter Lawwell, the Celtic CEO, is now thoroughly exasperated. He has forthwith banned 128 Celtic supporters from matches and is now dispersing Section 111, the corner of Celtic Park where the Green Brigade have stood since 2006.
This has been a complex saga from the start. Not everything about the Green Brigade has been bad for Celtic. Indeed, some of their antics up in the stands has been impressive and to be admired.
Their booming āCome On You Bhoys In Greenā, which reverberates around the stadium like a tribal African chant, being picked up by fellow supporters in all corners of the ground, was something to behold.
More than once in the past Neil Lennon, the Celtic manager, has marvelled at brilliant acoustics of the Green Brigadeās singing.
But there was more than this to their repertoire. In particular, the Irish political struggle, which has deposited much of its baggage in the west of Scotland in recent decades, appeared to be an essential of the Green Brigade handbook.
For many Green Brigade members it often seemed that, just as mandatory as actually supporting Celtic, was adhering to a devotion for Bobby Sands, the IRA hunger-striker. The Green Brigadeās political chanting in favour of Irish Republicanism was nowhere near as frequent as some made out but, when it did rise up, it was enough to exasperate a majority of Celtic supporters.
In this context Celtic as a club, let alone the Scottish Parliament, has never quite been able to square the circle. Celticās Irish roots deserve to be cherished, as do the roots of any family or football club.
In Celticās case, these roots stem from Ireland, and a pitiful saga of over 140 years ago. And it is a saga that has witnessed pain and dispute in almost every decade since then.
In short, these are incendiary roots to cherish, roots which are fraught with danger and bound to divide and offend. In this context there are two distinct narratives (in fact more than two) - one offered in Britain and one offered in Ireland - and both aspire to be āthe truthā about the Irish struggle.
With a group like the Green Brigade, Celtic FC has become mired in this. Theirs is a dangerous history and here in 2013 it has proved impossible to keep it inoffensive. The Green Brigade have seen to it.
The vast majority of Celtic fans take a distinctly different tack. There is no rampant Irish political expression among them. They cannot be bothered, frankly, with Bobby Sands.
The reason for this is pretty simple: the Celtic support is a variegated leaf, comprised of obvious Irish/Catholic roots, but also with a healthy Protestant element among it, as well as other ethnic groups.
By its sheer variety, the wider Celtic fanbase has a more watery view of the relevance of Ireland, as witnessed by a less than sympathetic ear extended towards the Green Brigadeās plight of the past 24 hours.
In short, the Green Brigadeās booming anthems have been much-admired; had they contained themselves to these they would have remained much-loved around Parkhead. But their political polemic - centred often on Sands and the IRA - has left most fellow-Celtic fans cold.
Celtic are now going through something similar to the trials of Rangers and their supportersā troubles of recent years.
The Ibrox club wrestled for decades with a problem of bigoted singing among its supporters, resulting in various pleas from the Ibrox hierarchy over many years for it to cease.
In 2006, when Uefa censured Rangers over such singing, it left a stigma on the club which Rangers toiled to shake off. The truth is, many Celtic fans revelled in this public embarrassment of their great rivals.
Now Celtic are receiving a dose of it, and have been publicly embarrassed. In disbanding the Green Brigade, the club hopes to finally be rid of unwanted attention.
As Rangers have already shown, though, it might take years and years in the cleansing.
Smashed up Fir Park, pal.
[quote=āthedancingbaby, post: 871840, member: 48ā]The Green Brigade have finally been moved towards extinction by Celtic FC. And notably few among the clubās wider, vast fanbase have come forth to express any sorrow.
The tipping-point was the disgusting and yobbish behaviour by certain Celtic fans at Fir Park last Friday night. To see the way seats were kicked-in in that stadium, and the grisly photographic evidence afterwards, was one of the greatest humiliations heaped on Celtic in years.
Doubts remain as to whether they were specific Green Brigade members, but the miscreants were within their space, behind their banners, and to all intents were a part of a noisy Green Brigade presence.
Peter Lawwell, the Celtic CEO, is now thoroughly exasperated. He has forthwith banned 128 Celtic supporters from matches and is now dispersing Section 111, the corner of Celtic Park where the Green Brigade have stood since 2006.
This has been a complex saga from the start. Not everything about the Green Brigade has been bad for Celtic. Indeed, some of their antics up in the stands has been impressive and to be admired.
Their booming āCome On You Bhoys In Greenā, which reverberates around the stadium like a tribal African chant, being picked up by fellow supporters in all corners of the ground, was something to behold.
More than once in the past Neil Lennon, the Celtic manager, has marvelled at brilliant acoustics of the Green Brigadeās singing.
But there was more than this to their repertoire. In particular, the Irish political struggle, which has deposited much of its baggage in the west of Scotland in recent decades, appeared to be an essential of the Green Brigade handbook.
For many Green Brigade members it often seemed that, just as mandatory as actually supporting Celtic, was adhering to a devotion for Bobby Sands, the IRA hunger-striker. The Green Brigadeās political chanting in favour of Irish Republicanism was nowhere near as frequent as some made out but, when it did rise up, it was enough to exasperate a majority of Celtic supporters.
In this context Celtic as a club, let alone the Scottish Parliament, has never quite been able to square the circle. Celticās Irish roots deserve to be cherished, as do the roots of any family or football club.
In Celticās case, these roots stem from Ireland, and a pitiful saga of over 140 years ago. And it is a saga that has witnessed pain and dispute in almost every decade since then.
In short, these are incendiary roots to cherish, roots which are fraught with danger and bound to divide and offend. In this context there are two distinct narratives (in fact more than two) - one offered in Britain and one offered in Ireland - and both aspire to be āthe truthā about the Irish struggle.
With a group like the Green Brigade, Celtic FC has become mired in this. Theirs is a dangerous history and here in 2013 it has proved impossible to keep it inoffensive. The Green Brigade have seen to it.
The vast majority of Celtic fans take a distinctly different tack. There is no rampant Irish political expression among them. They cannot be bothered, frankly, with Bobby Sands.
The reason for this is pretty simple: the Celtic support is a variegated leaf, comprised of obvious Irish/Catholic roots, but also with a healthy Protestant element among it, as well as other ethnic groups.
By its sheer variety, the wider Celtic fanbase has a more watery view of the relevance of Ireland, as witnessed by a less than sympathetic ear extended towards the Green Brigadeās plight of the past 24 hours.
In short, the Green Brigadeās booming anthems have been much-admired; had they contained themselves to these they would have remained much-loved around Parkhead. But their political polemic - centred often on Sands and the IRA - has left most fellow-Celtic fans cold.
Celtic are now going through something similar to the trials of Rangers and their supportersā troubles of recent years.
The Ibrox club wrestled for decades with a problem of bigoted singing among its supporters, resulting in various pleas from the Ibrox hierarchy over many years for it to cease.
In 2006, when Uefa censured Rangers over such singing, it left a stigma on the club which Rangers toiled to shake off. The truth is, many Celtic fans revelled in this public embarrassment of their great rivals.
Now Celtic are receiving a dose of it, and have been publicly embarrassed. In disbanding the Green Brigade, the club hopes to finally be rid of unwanted attention.
As Rangers have already shown, though, it might take years and years in the cleansing.[/quote]
Who is the arsehole author who wrote that dirge, mate?
[quote=āthedancingbaby, post: 871840, member: 48ā][
As Rangers have already shown, though, it might take years and years in the cleansing.[/quote]
Cleansing :o
If @larryduff was still alive heād be gutted, no one loved a singing section more than Lar
[quote=āRudi, post: 871842, member: 1052ā]Who is the arsehole author who wrote that dirge, mate?
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Graham Spiers mate
[quote=āmyboyblue, post: 871843, member: 180ā]Cleansing 
If @larryduff was still alive heād be gutted, no one loved a singing section more than Lar[/quote]
Larry is tremendous fun.
So Celtic want rid of their Irish heritage? Will it no longer be an Irish club?
It will more or less turn into a servile club of Irish heritage. Itās trying to lose the republican identity Celtic Football Club has always had. From a club who once made Michael Davitt an honourable patron to doing all they can to stamp out the republican voice in the stand - they make me fucking sick.
Lawwell is fucking evil.
Celtic as a PLC need Rangers now more than ever,
The rivalry with Inverness Caledonian Thistle and Celtic just hasnt really taken off this season and with the early elimination from europe, alienation of the fans, removal of its faux irish heritage and other rivals like Hearts falling apart youād wonder what future awaits the club except to slip back into the pack and become competitive with motherwell, falkirk, ayr, etcā¦
The season is over, celtic will win the domestic competitions without getting out of first gear because it is not required which must make for a rather hollow feeling at the end of the year.
In 2 years time i suppose the fans can once again look forward to the 4 or 5 games vs Rangers to keep then occupied during the 36 other meaningless weeks of the season, thatās fine and each year they have a 50% chance of qualification for the CL qualifiers, .
No Rangers, and a couple more season like this one in Europe and youād wonder where its all going to end up in terms of attracting decent players to the club
[quote=āmickee321, post: 871854, member: 367ā]Celtic as a PLC need Rangers now more than ever,
The rivalry with Inverness Caledonian Thistle and Celtic just hasnt really taken off this season and with the early elimination from europe, alienation of the fans, removal of its faux irish heritage and other rivals like Hearts falling apart youād wonder what future awaits the club except to slip back into the pack and become competitive with motherwell, falkirk, ayr, etcā¦
The season is over, celtic will win the domestic competitions without getting out of first gear because it is not required which must make for a rather hollow feeling at the end of the year.
In 2 years time i suppose the fans can once again look forward to the 4 or 5 games vs Rangers to keep then occupied during the 36 other meaningless weeks of the season, thatās fine and each year they have a 50% chance of qualification for the CL qualifiers, .
No Rangers, and a couple more season like this one in Europe and youād wonder where its all going to end up in terms of attracting decent players to the club[/quote]
Celtic donāt need Rangers as a PLC as they are pretty much guaranteed CL money every year as they should be qualifying every year. What will attract the players to Celtic is the chance to impress for them in the CL and get a big move elsewhere.
For the interest of the fans and the good of the league then Celtic definitely need Rangers back in the SPFL but commercially they donāt.