the caveat of that is that youll get more liberty halls and wood quays
Whatâs the issue there? Looks reasonable
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height, density, parking, easement of light, not designed for families and an assault on the natural architectural beauty of the surroundings
So in short, not on my patch.
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itd be fine on my patch, thereâsplenty of vacant lots around the town just not on the seafront
They let the library go ahead so theyâll let anything go ahead.
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the library was a DLRCC build so they couldnt really say no to themselves.
ABP nixed a similar application to the one in the hospital car park about 10 years ago so its a non runner id hope
Itâs a building straight from the âfuck youâ school of Architecture, which is a blight on the landscape. Like nearly every modern Irish building in fact c
Itâs a fucking flatback concrete box out of IKEA, but âShure if we put an oul rail along the top, everyone will think itâs like neo-georgian or somethingâ
It raises itâs middle finger to fine, no, to even average architecture everywhere.
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Iâm sure the current DL seafront doesnât really fit in with a stoney beach, or whatever was there before.
You canât stop progress. Weâve an aversion to high buildings in this country, but they are a lot better than building Dublin suburbs in Laois.
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looks good
no need for parking if its beside the village , dart and active travel lanes 
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at least the suburbs in laois are about permanent ownership. these are build to let. 75% will be one bed apartments. this isnt about alleviating the housing shortage its about milking the market
The library in DĂșn Laoghaire looks excellent and is a prime example of the limited thinking of many. It already has become quite a popular building and Iâd bet will be beloved in 20 years. An excellent addition to the coastline.
Plenty of Sam Stephensonâs work was excellent. The Central Bank is cracking building imo, the fact that his vision was chopped off wasnât his fault. As a form of brutalist architecture, it is perfect for Ireland. As with everything it needs some TLC. It is going to look tremendous when renovated.
Wood Quay wasnât great but you can see the vision. Part of the hate for him is nothing to do with him, itâs to do with with the decisions taken by others to build where he was engaged.
Similarly with Desmond Rea OâKelly, Liberty Hall was a striking building when constructed. I hated it for years and still think it looks ugly, but that is due to what the occupants of the building have done to it. They never kept the windows as they were supposed to be, and the visual went away. This is the same as Bus Ăras, which was striking when built but there has been a serious lack of TLC, with many of the intended features also ripped out over time.
The problem with Liberty Hall now is that it is not fit for purpose internally so a Central Bank like renovation would be challenging. If it has to go, it has to go, but there is far worse out there from the 60s onwards imo.
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i agree with some of what youre saying here. iâll never agree on the library as i dont think the space is fully maximised. they could have easily made it a lower building without losing any of the functionality.
looking forward to your rehabilitation of hawkins house as a misunderstood architectural gem
No Hawkins House always was a dump.
The issues with Liberty Hall are clear. You can see what they did to it over the years. From this;
To this;
Similarly with Bus Ăras. From this;
To this. Not giving it TLC, lashing up high gates on it etc
I find it bizarre what stands for a monument in Dublin. Apparently the Poolbeg Towers are grand, for example.
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NOT IN MY BACKYARD
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I would like to see more angles of it as the coast definately needs care but the initial reaction to buildings cannot always be âheight is evilâ. By any planners handbook, this is where you want some good density. The 46a goes from across the road, thereâs the DART line, you have more and more cycle friendly infrastructure into the cityâŠ
My understanding is that the apartments are 8 floors next door, 13 wonât break the bank.
if you were living in marine walk the proposal would be a disaster as youll lose your afternoon sun light as well as your view and privacy.
all the docs are here
the 13 floor is a strategic thing; they think that people will go after that and then theyll get nixed on that but get planning for the other buildings
You donât have an automatic right to a view.
Marine Walk is more elevated anyway, and a good distance away, beside the Pavillion no? Iâm sure the Kingstown Town Council building is higher, regardless. I canât see how it would impact them, Iâm sure the apartments right beside it will be though.
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