I really don’t know how you can’t understand this
If you are born after a certain year you can but cigarettes for the rest of your life,
If you’re ‘unlucky’ enough to be born on or after that year you can’t
It’s not rocket science, places that serve drink to underage people are sanctioned right??
Why does this bother you so much?
And I’m not ‘dodging’ any questions, this is about smoking,
It doesn’t bother me, I’m arguing a point, I disagree with the law and I disagree with you. You’ve been getting arsey about it. It’s removing choice from adults. The choice is already removed as you can’t sell them to children, yet they still get them, especially in social disadvantaged areas. This law will have fuck all effect in anyway shape or form on the numbers of people smoking cigarettes. It will result in less taxation from the product and a bigger black market, which by it’s nature means even more harmful stuff in cigarettes.
You could argue without being condescending, you know.
OK mate, you want to have an argument find someone else.
I agree with it and I’ve stated that, it’s not at all unenforceable
I have not been condescending
Have a nice day
I don’t know who you usually speak with, but in any mans terms that is condescending.
You’re dismissing any point raised against your view but not arguing… OK.
@carryharry is fucked here he won’t know who’s side to take 
When he visited the U.S. in 1921, Albert Einstein expressed his view on prohibition. I think it will be similar with smoking.
“The prestige of government has undoubtedly been lowered considerably by the Prohibition law. For nothing is more destructive of respect for the government and the law of the land than passing laws which cannot be enforced. It is an open secret that the dangerous increase of crime in this country is closely connected with this.”
New Zealand also naively tried to lockout Covid-19. It kind of worked but nobody bothered getting vaccinated so they were a sitting duck when things started to open again. It could never work fully.
But the thing is, it doesn’t need to work fully, it just needs to save more lives than we’re saving at the moment. Every single person who we save from lung cancer is an innocent life saved. Heroin prohibition doesn’t work fully but presumably the government thinks that it still saves some lives so it’s worthwhile.
That’s all very true. 
If it isn’t 100% effective then there’s no point in trying.
That’s a different tune than you were singing for covid restrictions
An outright smoking ban in Bhutan led to a massive black market which they then had to legislate for.
Smoking numbers have increased massively.
Why do you think that. It will def stop some people taking up smoking
Cocaine is illegal and it hasn’t stopped people using it. Dealers will be pushing cigarettes in schools as the punishment won’t be severe and there’ll be handy money in it. All prohibition does is create a vacuum
Yeah but more people would use it if it wasn’t illegal and available in the local shop
Tobacco will still be legal and available in the shop
Not for this group. They are putting an obstacle in the way
How do you stop them getting tobacco pal? What are the sanctions? Are there going to be cops tasked to find people born after 2014 smoking cigarettes? Its an absolutely ridiculous law
New Zealand haven’t outlined any of that. There is no detail. I expect the rug will get pulled on this when they go to iron out the details and they’ll up duties on them and limit sales agents to certain places
Was it the brain child of Jacinda/Jacinda’s administration?
It’s an obstacle. The same as smoking in workplaces was banned and some continued outiside. It won’t stop everyone but it will stop plenty
exactly, what will this create?
Less smokers?