Republic of Ireland WNT - We're all part of Vera and Tony O'Donoghues Army

[Cheasty]

@estebandaface

should we not sing songs until every last one of the imperialist bastards has left our island. Or something

we need everything to be restored to pre 1169 - we will sing whatever songs we want until then.

Grand but if you want to sing songs glorifying murderers don’t then complain when Loyalists sing songs ridiculing Catholic murder victims.

[Lazarus]

Apparo one of Charlies subjects was asking our girls if she knew her history today. Oh the ironing

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

what punishment do you want for the Liverpool fans singing it tonight?

[Little_Lord_Fauntleroy]

Tony McDermott

[PhattPike]

@StoneCold

I would have thought the song is inoffensive enough except for the Up The Ra bit. Maybe it refers to the good IRA of the early 20th century?

According to Brian Warfield, in a mighty car crash of an interview on Radio 1 earlier, it could in fact refer to the Egyptian deity Ra - the lyrics do not explicitly indicate which Ra he is referring to.

[estebandaface]

I couldn’t give a fuck about what songs anybody sings. they’re only songs

[Cheasty]

That’s funny like the Stewart Lee joke, mate.

[Cheasty]

@estebandaface

I couldn’t give a fuck about what songs anybody sings. they’re only songs

Sound, the Michaela McAreavey song is grand then by your reckoning.

[myboyblue]

@estebandaface

I couldn’t give a fuck about what songs anybody sings. they’re only songs

How foolish of you

[estebandaface]

it’s just a fucking song so yeah, belt it out

[Cheasty]

@estebandaface

it’s just a fucking song so yeah, belt it out

Good one here at 45:30, very catchy

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[Lazarus]

Should a song is written in good faith then it can still be a revered piece of art whatever the political context. Clearly the Michaela song was not, it was written only to cause offense and dehumanise

[Thomas_Brady]

Mr black and white is frothing at the mouth again

[Cheasty]

@Lazarus

Should a song is written in good faith then it can still be a revered piece of art whatever the political context. Clearly the Michaela song was not, it was written only to cause offense and dehumanise

Lots of songs are written only to cause offence and are revered pieces of art.

God Save The Queen
The fascist regime

[Lazarus]

Good you are proving Uncle Estebans point yourself, now I dont have to

[Arthur]

It’s really very different. The Michaela one was made up specifically to make fun of the murder of one particular person simply because she was a well known catholic. It was sung with that express purpose of causing offence and being performatively cruel.
The Celtic symphony song is one of the most popular ‘party songs’ in Ireland and I don’t think anyone thinks one single member of the team was singing it to cause offence and in anything other than an unthinking celebratory way.
A better comparison with ooh ah up the ra would be rule Britannia or god save the Queen.

[Cheasty]

@Lazarus

Good you are proving Uncle Estebans point yourself, now I dont have to

By your rationale the Michaela McAreavey song is no different.

[Thomas_Brady]

Youre explaining to a deranged lunatic. Let that set in.

[Lazarus]

It probably isn’t to some. Most reasonable people will note a distinct difference

[TheUlteriorMotive]

It’s about context.

Young girls from Dublin (?) mainly in a dressing room singing Up the Ra is harmless enough although naïve to share it. There’s no political undertone to it.

A Sinn Fein TD shouting it on election night is more troubling.

We need to put context back into issues/debates. It’s been removed all too often in recent times.