Conor Gormley.
@Il Bomber Destro will be devastated.
[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1064744, member: 183”]Conor Gormley.
@Il Bomber Destro will be devastated.[/QUOTE]
An absolute beast of a player. Obviously long since his prime but still, one of the great defenders of the modern era.
Different class, different class.
[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1064744, member: 183”]Conor Gormley.
@Il Bomber Destro will be devastated.[/QUOTE]
The greatest defender I have ever seen, hands down. Played every position from 2-7 for Tyrone and was immense when playing each one.
My abiding memory of Gormley would probably be the 2012 qualifier down in Kerry where Tyrone were well beaten by Kerry yet Gormley was still the best player on the pitch. Hard to think of a time when he was taken to the cleaners, I think Coulter may have done a job on him once but that was the height of it.
Gormley was a good one.
Gormley was different class. He was battered the last few years and still the best Tyrone defender. Some man to sort out a row - there’s some famous line about him holding off a row with one arm like a gentrified cop.
Definitely a star of the game. His reading of the game was ovteb over looked due to his close-in defending and scraps etc.
he had natural power too, the gold quality for most sportsmen than spend time in gyms trying to develop. I’m sure he did his gym thing, but he had real natural power.
Probably played too long though. It’s a pity Harte hasn’t stepped aside for some of the older lads a couple of years ago. They would have got a new boost and drive from someone else. It’s been particularly selfish from him.
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great block but always thought Mcdonnell was very naïve there turning back onto his right instead of making it more difficult for defender to get to him by turning onto his left…that’s the instinct the great players like Gooch naturally have when it comes to finishing…
Gooch didn’t have the natural ball winning abilities of a great player like McDonnell. He makes the angle much more difficult by going onto his left. And I’ll tell you something, Stevie McDonnell had much more success against that Tyrone defence than Gooch ever did, in the last 15 odd years only Canavan was a better forward than McDonnell.
Sweet fucking Jesus.
You managed to use a pretty basic mistake by McDonnell as an example to say he’s better than Gooch.
Gooch is an unbelievable ball winner. He doesn’t have to do as much dirty ball winning as maybe McDonnell did, but that’s mostly cos his runs and movement is so clever and in a different level to anyone I remember seeing. And also the quality if ball Kerry deliver is usually superior to anyone else.
This is the greatest bit of guff you have ever produced. McDonnell was very good, but still streets behind Gooch as an inside forward.
[QUOTE=“caoimhaoin, post: 1065219, member: 273”]Sweet fucking Jesus.
You managed to use a pretty basic mistake by McDonnell as an example to say he’s better than Gooch.
Gooch is an unbelievable ball winner. He doesn’t have to do as much dirty ball winning as maybe McDonnell did, but that’s mostly cos his runs and movement is so clever and in a different level to anyone I remember seeing. And also the quality if ball Kerry deliver is usually superior to anyone else.
This is the greatest bit of guff you have ever produced. McDonnell was very good, but still streets behind Gooch as an inside forward.[/QUOTE]
If Gooch was so such a great ball winner then why did he consistently struggle against Tyrone and other Ulster teams? Look at the impact McDonnell was able to make against teams with very solid defences in very tight games, compare that to Gooch.
I think Brolly nailed Gooch’s legacy there a couple of years ago, in the big games that went down to the wire against opposition who would not back down he was generally found wanting - Stevie McDonnell wasn’t and was a much superior footballer. Gooch was grand when Kerry were steamrolling the likes of Cork and Mayo but in the real battles, he faltered. Stevie McDonnell was the opposite, a man for the big occassion who relished the pressure.
It’s not even worth the satisfaction of making a clown of you. Maybe Manuel is in the mood, but to be honest this way too stupid.
That’s my first ever dumb rating. But WU or not, it is warranted.
i) McDonnell was as good a finisher as there was in the game.
ii) He didn’t turn onto his right, he received the ball over his right shoulder and the angle was set up for him to take it on his right without having to break stride.
iii) If he’d turned onto his left, he’d have made the angle harder for himself, and such was the speed of Gormley’s anticipation he would have been able to block it anyway.
[QUOTE=“Sidney, post: 1065225, member: 183”]i) McDonnell was as good a finisher as there was in the game.
ii) He didn’t turn onto his right, he received the ball over his right shoulder and the angle was set up for him to take it on his right without having to break stride.
iii) If he’d turned onto his left, he’d have made the angle harder for himself, and such was the speed of Gormley’s anticipation he would have been able to block it anyway.[/QUOTE]
Superb piece of sloping again.
Fully agree with points too. Gormley’s play is majestic. The play happened in a matter of miliseconds. Of course if different courses of action had been taken a different result may have occurred but to lessen the magnificence of Gormley’s block by saying McDonnell should’ve done something different is churlish.
Beano won an All Star? News to me.
Stevie McDonnell was always a man who performed under the highest pressure and intensity, in fact it brought the best football out in him.
Gooch struggled when the going got tough.
2002 - flopped against Armagh in the second half.
2003 - minimal impact in the semi-final against Tyrone.
2004 - soft All Ireland against Mayo
2005 - well marshalled by Tyrone
2006 - even when they beat Armagh, Gooch did not have much influence - it was all about Donaghy. Soft All Ireland in the final against Mayo again.
2007 - soft All Ireland against Cork
2008 - kept well under wraps against Tyrone in the final
2009 - soft All Ireland against Cork
2010 - minimal impact against a reasonable Down side
2011 - good game against Dublin but when the going got tough near the end he wasn’t to be seen
2012 - completely snuffed out against Donegal
2013 - good year in a new CHF role
2014 - injured
[QUOTE=“Il Bomber Destro, post: 1065233, member: 2533”]Stevie McDonnell was always a man who performed under the highest pressure and intensity, in fact it brought the best football out in him.
Gooch struggled when the going got tough.
2002 - flopped against Armagh in the second half.
2003 - minimal impact in the semi-final against Tyrone.
2004 - soft All Ireland against Mayo
2006 even when they beat Armagh, Gooch did not have much influence - it was all about Donaghy. Soft All Ireland in the final against Mayo again.
2007 - soft All Ireland against Cork
2008 - kept well under wraps against Tyrone in the final
2009 - soft All Ireland against Cork
2010 - minimal impact against a reasonable Down side
2011 - good game against Dublin but when the going got tough near the end he wasn’t to be seen
2012 - completely snuffed out against Donegal
2013 - good year in a new CHF role
2014 - injured[/QUOTE]
Ya ya.