Rugby Players Rape Trial

I generally say “six counties”, mate if I’m referring to the six county statelet.

The term “northern Ireland” could mean anywhere from Fair Head down to Sligo or Leitrim, maybe even Roscommon.

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I think it was mentioned previously that Paul Jackson came down stairs and told his brother to keep the noise down as it was a Monday and he was worried about the neighbours

Like I said. Ms. Sherlock admitted there were significant inconsistencies. The note beside dara florence’s name is also quite something ; may help the defence or the prosecution.

Were they questioned at all, I wonder?

@KOS1987 already explained the first bit earlier.

Much as you might like to think that makes it “all over bar the shouting”, it doesn’t.

What was the “note” beside Dara Florence’s name?

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The brother and his Mrs & their baby live on the top floor, above Jacksons room, his brother texted asking him to keep it down (the noise that is)

Maybe they slept through the whole thing, but I’d be surprised if that was the case. You tend to wake up if there’s a commotion outside or downstairs, and it seems pretty clear there was.

I’d imagine they were questioned and had given little or no useful info

So they’re lying and don’t know if they did as alleged?

I’d say that’s it exactly

Amazing cops never questioned them if that is case

I’ve swung a few times on what the likely outcome of the trial is.

I’m currently swinging back towards a conviction for all four, but I’m only about 55-45 on that.

Is McIlroy the most cut and dry in terms of getting off (no pun intended)?

The charge brought against him is exposure, as far as that goes, it’s only the victim’s word against his, none of his pals put him in the room that night, there are no witnesses like there were with Olding and Jackson who saw them engaging with the victim.

Is it possible to bring additional charges against him based on the fact that it’s quite clearly his story and version of events does not stand up under any credible light?

It’s hard to see Olding get done I’d imagine. His alcohol induced state will probably help the inconsistencies in his story but I think it’s obvious he’s covering for Jackson.

I don’t think it’s looking good for Jackson at all, it looks like people are telling lies to beat the band in order to cover for him, I think that much is obvious. He is denying having sex with the women when a witness and his friend paint a different picture.

Harrison is a slam dunk conviction I’d imagine and he’ll be filleted if he takes the stand.

Paddy Jackson comes across as a heinous and reprehnsible individual.
The description of Olding as a monkeyish imbecile fits.
McIlroy is a crass fantasist.
And Harrison is a slimy, amoral creep.

I believe her.

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That’s a funny insight into your mindset farmer.

There is no way that’s what happened

You’re the guy who has spent the last 3 weeks strongly questioning whether Jackson denied having sex with her when it was clearly established that was his position.

I don’t think she was raped and I do not believe she ever thought that either really deep down

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How do you know any of that?

How do you know any of them are unbiased

The taxi driver could have been a nationalist.

The witness Dara helped the lads and nobody else.

This girls story is ands all over the place. Just because she was well coached to absorb does not mean it made sense.

None of this makes sense really. It’s got more and more distorted.

And I think that’s the brilliance of the defenses case. You can’t convict on this shit.

It’s genius

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LOL

:grin::grin::grin:

What a dope :grin:

Jesus you have no idea have you.

You think an ex would be able to tell somebody if a guy is a rapist or not???

Holy fuck you are totally removed from reality

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