My good God. That is in COURT, not 57% of all rapes that HAPPEN. Do you and @alf_stewart not understand that? 17% of rapes are not resolved. That’s figures of the ones that are REPORTED not that HAPPEN. And 8% are reported. Do you actually believe 57% of rapes that happen end in a conviction? 
can’t. You’re also referring to an English paper, my stats were re Ireland.
Maybe, quite possible… doubt they went through the ins and outs ofof it though about them In detail. More a “if the cops ask, deny deny deny”
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@TheUlteriorMotive
@alf_stewart
Here’s another report from 2015 -
"Amongst other findings, the report highlights the fact that only one in ten victims of sexual crime in Ireland reports that crime. Of that one in ten, only 7% secures a conviction. So of 100 victims of sexual crime, only 10 report that crime. Barely one victim from that 100 will see their attacker pay for their crimes.
Less than 1% of victims of sexual crime in Ireland get justice. With that in mind, it’s hard not to wonder exactly what message the courts think they send to victims of sexual crime when lenient sentences are handed down."
@TheUlteriorMotive I saw you were typing away there a minute ago - as you were. You can’t argue with actual fact, surely.
“Only one in ten victims of sexual crime in Ireland reports that crime. Those who do report then face a torturous journey to the point where the DPP thinks it worth prosecuting the case. Ireland has the lowest conviction rate for rape cases – following allegation – in Europe, standing at 1 – 2%. The EU average is 8 – 10%.”
There we are again.
The only figure you can go on is the number of cases reported to the garda. How can the state deal with something thats not reported. Clearly more than 1% of reported cases end in a conviction. How can you not figure it out. Did you read the article Theulteriormotive posted? Maybe engage with the points in that article instead of getting defensive and plucking figure out of the sky.
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Out of the sky? The DPP, the GardaI, Rape Crisis Centres (the number of calls they receive anonymously), Sexual Assault Units - they are not “out of the sky”. You have selected one article form an English newspaper - not even the same country I’m referring to in my stats. You literally wrote earlier that 17% of cases were “resolved” - eh…nearly one in five?
These are actual facts - you two do not know better than people who’s profession it is to deal with rape victims and perpetrators .
Again, the conviction rate for conviction in the UK may be 58% but that is of REPORTED rapes that go to trial.
And its around 80% in ireland. As per the DPP figures. Can you at least accept this fact.
You should read this to inform yourself as to why a report of a rape or sexual assault does not mean a rape or sexual assault has actually taken place. Rape is a criminal offence which must be proven. Reporting a rape to the police or a researcher does not establish a rape occurred.
Most defendants and victims (70 per cent) have been drinking and as much as you like to live in a black and white world the world is in fact grey.
It might also explain why 2009 research showed Ireland had one of highest rates of false rape allegations at 9% - again the research linked this to alcohol.
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Again, how are you disputing facts? Even with the 9% false allegations in Ireland, the world average is 2%~8%, convictions are notoriously low for sexual assaults, that do happen. And reported cases overwhelmingly do not go to court.
Fine yeah, never saw that figure but if the DPP say so…Where is the source please? Even with that being true, what percentage of the 8% reported cases end up in court? It still leads to a notoriously low conviction rate for incidents.
Does the same logic apply to if domestic abuss, murder, bodily harm, theft? Everyone was drunk sure. 
You know what you’re right, never mind rape myths… rape itself is a myth. Everyone was just pissed and therefore, if you don’t remember, it never happened.
There was a 24% increase in calls to the centre’s National 24-Hour Helpline in 2016 compared to the year before (there was a total of 12,400 calls). Around half of those calls were from people who were contacting the centre for the first time.
This is Rape Crisis in Dublin only in one year. So all these people, who have no legal gain from calling an anonymous helpline are crying rape… if you think this figure isn’t a problem… then you’re what’s wrong with society.
Also I posted an article last night from the Irish times based on a European study that put the figure at an 8% conviction for all reported cases in ireland. did you read it? Out of those reported 9% were false allegations as per that study. So out of all reported cases it said 9% were false and 8% ended up in conviction. Can you follow that? Again i’m talking about reported cases. Unreported cases are a different story. No wonder so many go unreported when people are going around pretty much saying there is no point in reporting it like you are.
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A lot more men are reporting rape so that probably explains the increase.
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And what happens the other 73% of reported cases?
And good for them! They absolutely should. Men are victims too.
Correct. Reports of male rape has risen tenfold over the last 5 years.
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Read the report I linked and my post before you defend a point I did not make. The report was commissioned by Rape Crisis Network Ireland.
I hope they keep reporting. We need a full 360 on this.
“Of 203 suspects in 173 alleged crimes against under 18-year-olds, the DPP did not prosecute 163 (80%) of the suspects.”