Rugby World Cup 2015

Mick Doyle sounds like an absolute ogre of a man altogether

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His autobiography ‘Doyler’ is an absolute must read.

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That is godawful maths.

He was banging all round him though. No accounting for taste.

Doyler not only banged all around him like there was no tomorrow but ended up banged around like there was no tomorrow. And for him, there wasn’t.

Yet another Kerryman who found Tyrone a bogey county.

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Will we beat the Ozzies, mate?

Yeah I read the post. First off, the Draft Lottery isn’t a law, its a drafting structure. You can’t disobey the lottery. It’s an incentive not to come dead last. It actually encourages tanking. A team that initially starts with playoff ambitions but falls away can improve their pick by losing what are effectively meaningless games, and it happens all the time.

Minimum payrolls don’t stop teams playing their inferior players and benching better players to tank. In any case, the payroll floors in the NFL/NBA are so limp-dicked that they might as well not exist, and are easy to circumvent. MLB doesn’t have one

You’re losing badly here. You stated that “American sports” have “anti-tanking laws”, a broad statement implying they all have hardline rules directly dealing with tanking, and you are wrong. You’re getting a chasing you spa.

Just a knob end.

Brian ashton exposed these bluffer’s today in one of the London rags. Years of dreadful coaching. The drill sergeant plague of modern sport.

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Hope so…

Mike Brown is a top, top bloke. The fact you’re vilifying him based on an interview moments after agonisingly losing a crucial World Cup match which England had been targetting for three years is proof yet again that you just don’t get top level sport*, fella.

[quote=“caoimhaoin, post:672, topic:20980, full:true”]Brian ashton exposed these bluffer’s today in one of the London rags. Years of dreadful coaching. The drill sergeant plague of modern sport.
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Including the Brian Ashton years?

*Apologies for the phraseology to those offended by it.

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Not true. First tiebreaker:

The winner of the Match in which the two tied Teams have played each other shall be the higher ranked

It’s an insight into their weak mentality.

The coaching reference is in relation to the whole structure of Coaching back to when these lads were developing.

He’s 100% right

Australia will win on Saturday and will ultimately win the tournament.

Thats as bad as the fucking camogie

On the contrary I think English rugby has got its coaching structures very much in order in recent years as shown by the emergence of a large number of very exciting young players.

What they’re missing is a Johnson/Dallaglio John Bull-type figure. Those figures take time to emerge. Even the Johnson/Dallaglio team coached by Woodward lost three Grand Slam deciders in a row from 1999 to 2001, were well beaten in the quarter-finals of the 1999 World Cup and were touted as serial bottlers before they showed the merit of that argument by winning the Grand Slam and the World Cup in 2003.

England may be one game away from going out of the World Cup but they’re also potentially one game away from winning the group, which they probably will if they beat Australia.

Even if England do go out on Saturday they have the nucleus of a team who will challenge very strongly in 2019.

England’s priority for a few years has been to try and make themselves hard to beat, which they have largely succeeded in doing in that whilst they are not actually that good, a team will generally feel it the next day. I doubt this will win them the WC though.
Clive Woodward makes my teeth ache, and is up there with Bono as one of the more insufferable people in the public eye. And that’s saying something.

What was wrong with the interview? What do you want from him?

Talented young players is not a sign of good coaching. Its a sign of a decent structure. The coaching is an element within that structure. And it also has to do with wealthy private schools paying for the children of immigrants to attend their schools due to soorting talent. Then due to underage dominance usually due to physical advantages nobody corrects their flaws or helps their decision making. When physical advantages even out at the elite level the likes of the Kiwis destroy them tactically and game management wise. Even Wales and Ireland are superior in this aspect. How many times in the last 15 years has ireland beaten a physically better and faster and more technically gifted English team?maybe 7/8 times. Thats because the irish team is smarter and better prepared mentally.

This is not solely a english rugby thing. Many sports are suffering with certain coaching methods. Technical coaches of note don’t travel up the ladder like they used to and many of the best coaches stay in obscure clubs or with underage teams. The people getting the big jobs have loads of courses done but little experience, often a high level player as well.

Its a deeply flawed system.

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A bit less ignirence and respect for the interviewer.he gets paid for it.

How you lose reflects alot on who you are. We all get disappointed and frustrated.

Knob end.

New Zealand and Ireland are hardly examples to be comparing favourably to England given that New Zealand are serial World Cup chokers with an inferior record to England in the competition over the last 25 years, and Ireland have never even progressed beyond the quarter-final, have crashed and burned at the group stages in two of the last four tournaments and, bar 1991, have been well beaten in all the quarter-finals they did reach.

I thought the interviewer was quite patronising and asked very inane questions, Brown gave him about the level of respect he deserved. Interviewer botched it just as much as Brown did.