Russia Vs Ukraine (Part 2) - Neocons Strike Back

Where does it say it was a quote? “The US is set to to tell…”

There are deranged fellas here who work on the premise of:

Israel bombs a hospital: BAD
Russia bombs a hospital: GOOD

https://twitter.com/Mylovanov/status/1810235604107440460

And you are the top of that tree, with @Malarkey not far behind you.

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https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2024/0713/1459645-shannon-zelensky-stopover/

I’ve seen this mentioned before but never understood it.
Where are these children from?
Where are their parents?

The Taoiseach will also offer Irish assistance for thousands of Ukrainian children forcibly relocated to Russia and Belarus and entered into Russian re-education programmes since the war began, and confirm Ireland’s membership of an international coalition calling for the return of the estimated 20,000 children.

Bbc did an expose where they found some patents living away off in the woods somewhere, their kid was in an orphanage, awaiting medical treatment apparently. Clearly they knew little and cared less. The suggestion that russians are sending out child catchers to kidnap and re-educate/indoctrinate children is clichéd propaganda of cartoonish proportions

Have you thought of applying to RT? I’d say you more than meet the qualifications to become an Eylon Levy type.

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What is difficult to understand? The children are Ukranian and have been kidnapped/brought to Russia; the parents are mainly in Ukraine or parts of Ukraine currently held by the Russians.

Today, 17 March 2023, Pre-Trial Chamber II of the International Criminal Court (“ICC” or “the Court”) issued warrants of arrest for two individuals in the context of the situation in Ukraine: Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin and Ms Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova.

Mr Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, born on 7 October 1952, President of the Russian Federation, is allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute). The crimes were allegedly committed in Ukrainian occupied territory at least from 24 February 2022. There are reasonable grounds to believe that Mr Putin bears individual criminal responsibility for the aforementioned crimes, (i) for having committed the acts directly, jointly with others and/or through others (article 25(3)(a) of the Rome Statute), and (ii) for his failure to exercise control properly over civilian and military subordinates who committed the acts, or allowed for their commission, and who were under his effective authority and control, pursuant to superior responsibility (article 28(b) of the Rome Statute).

Ms Maria Alekseyevna Lvova-Belova, born on 25 October 1984, Commissioner for Children’s Rights in the Office of the President of the Russian Federation, is allegedly responsible for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population (children) and that of unlawful transfer of population (children) from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation (under articles 8(2)(a)(vii) and 8(2)(b)(viii) of the Rome Statute). The crimes were allegedly committed in Ukrainian occupied territory at least from 24 February 2022. There are reasonable grounds to believe that Ms Lvova-Belova bears individual criminal responsibility for the aforementioned crimes, for having committed the acts directly, jointly with others and/or through others (article 25(3)(a) of the Rome Statute).

Pre-Trial Chamber II considered, based on the Prosecution’s applications of 22 February 2023, that there are reasonable grounds to believe that each suspect bears responsibility for the war crime of unlawful deportation of population and that of unlawful transfer of population from occupied areas of Ukraine to the Russian Federation, in prejudice of Ukrainian children.

The Chamber considered that the warrants are secret in order to protect victims and witnesses and also to safeguard the investigation. Nevertheless, mindful that the conduct addressed in the present situation is allegedly ongoing, and that the public awareness of the warrants may contribute to the prevention of the further commission of crimes, the Chamber considered that it is in the interests of justice to authorise the Registry to publicly disclose the existence of the warrants, the name of the suspects, the crimes for which the warrants are issued, and the modes of liability as established by the Chamber.

The abovementioned warrants of arrests were issued pursuant to the applications submitted by the Prosecution on 22 February 2023.

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I just find it hard to fathom that in this day and age.
20K is a lot of children to just take away.

Do you buy this shit? Id say a fair number of kids are being trafficked, but are we supposed to believe they’re being brainwashed somewhere?
What would you do with orphanages in a war zone?

“In this day and age.”

What does “in this day and age” have to do with anything?

Human barbarity is human barbarity. It doesn’t somehow cease to exist because we’re in the 21st century.

You do realise that Putin and Russia are by far the closest things Europe has seen to Hitler and Nazi Germany since World War II? Yes?

That is very little for a country the size of Russia, who have a lot of couples who can’t have children.

There was a lot of talk of the 20 children kidnapped in Nigeria.
Not so much about the 20K in Russia.

I’m probably wrong in thinking that Russia would be more ‘civilised’ than Nigeria.

Boko Haram have kidnapped 1,000s of children mate.

And no, I wouldn’t say the Russian army is more civilised than Boko Haram, who are a spectacular shower of cunts.

I’m friends with two Ukrainians here and they would poison any Russian they met. They are both convinced however that the hospital in Kiev was bombed by their own to prolong the war .

Make of that what you will

Why would they want to prolong the war?

Ah, fair enough so.
I still find it hard to fathom.
There must be fierce resistance in the occupied territories that we’re not hearing about.

According to them it’s América and Britain and their own corrupt government (thier words) being under their thumb. One of these women has had two offers for her apartment from American investors and they both say half the western part of the country has been sold off already

We will.

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