The tanks are all well and good now but russia has set up tank defence systems east of the dnipro river. Will be interesting to see if the tanks can over come these. A good test of the American tech.
I imagine that the f16s would require a sabage amount of training so i doubt it unless a nato pilot is driving it
It wonât be just tanks they will use.
You seem to be following this, how much precision artillery pieces and ammunition have Ukraine accumulated in the last few months? Russia doesnât have any. Not to mind all the other equipment. The NATO members are doling out a Mish mash of stuff in isolation, but in total everything comes together nicely.
Ukraine also managed to consign the Russian black sea fleet to port despite not having a navy. They have kept their skies clear despite being outnumbered 10:1 in terms of jet fighters.
One side is incredibly incompetent and ravaged with corruption, the other is defending their soil and backed with a blank check.
Oh yeah, the amount of equipment ukraine has received is massive but now getting tanks is a signal for them to attack while everything before was intended for defence. Will be interesting to see how it plays out. Worryingly how will putin react as it is an indication of offence for Ukraine using equipment supplied by nato. An openly declared one. Im sure there is plenty of secert intelligence lead attacks performed that werent made public.
They wonât attack russian soil and might even leave Crimea alone.
The USA/NATO very clearly wonât be bullied by Putin. I canât tell you what will happen, but all bluffs have been called so far. High ranking Russians including have alluded to or threatened to use nuclear weapons something like 3000 times since this started
With the tanks - whatâs promised so far, even including what the Poles will send, is not much, maybe 80 main battle tanks. And they wonât be available for weeks if not months (the US Abrams tanks are still in the US). And they require serious training, maintenance and supply chains.
They will make a massive difference when deployed in battle, but we may well see a huge Russian offensive before this happens. The question regarding that is whether the Ruuskies have learned anything and whether their comical incompetence has improved.
I doubt it, Iâd imagine the Ukrainians learnings have been more pronounced. The West has missed a beat here. If they had supplied Ukraine with material months ago, as winter set in, any Spring offensive could have been a complete massacre of the Ruuskies.
Just heard on BBC,US tanks wonât arrive for nearly a year. German ones, lads need to be trained. Nothing immediate about this announcement.
What the West can do with more immediacy is to deploy serious amounts of air defence systems to deal with the inhumane missile and drone strikes on civilians by Russia.
And enforce a no fly zone. Fuck the Russians. Put your F-35âs and B1âs in the air and blow the fuck out of any rickety MiGâs that dare to encroach on Ukrainian air space.
What will the Russians do? Two fifths of fuck all, thatâs what.
True
Agree
Sitting ducks basically
Iâd say heâll ride off into the sunset healthily reimbursed by many Weapons Manufacturers involved in all this, the cunt
Ukraine said they needed 300. Western analysts said 100 would be sufficient to make a major difference. It seems about 80 leopards are committed already, the Brits sent a dozen challengers I think, and the US sending 31 Abrams.
Say one thing for the Brits, theyâve been at the forefront providing military support and were out front with the tanks while Germany and the US were still foot dragging.
I think theyâve provided the air defence systems now - Patriot. Takes time to deploy and train up and get fully operational.
Iâd be very dubious of the Toriesâ motives for being so supportive to Ukraine especially when theyâre dripping with Russian money.
Also in the news at the same time they were allowing the head of Wagner to sue to get around sanctions. Bizarre stuff. But still, they were well out in front supplying tanks before the others.
Why doesnât himself and his son go out to fight if he feels so passionate about it?
The British are always fighting on the side of right, backing the small guy. Being British means standing for freedom from tyranny
Whatâs the story with a lot of Ukrainian officials/ministers getting the boot
The eastern europeans are an awful shower of macho chauvinistic people wanting us to be dragged into their cock waving fest.
