They canât bring themselves to call the State by itâs actual name. That should be a red flag.
I donât understand why the Gardai and other arms of the state are faux outrage over this?
Gardai do partake in evictions at the behest of the state. Mostly as observers to make sure the peace isnât breached. Only a totalitarian state or a harmless one doesnât allow any criticism of a police force. I dare say we are the latter
Merely making fun of them is great progress really when you think about it.
The OâBroin tweet whatever you think of it makes a serious political point.
The Cosgrave tweet from last night is the real red flag. Cosgrave fancies himself as a a sort of Roger Stone type for SF and that Ditch yoke is a Gript style operation on behalf of SF.
Cosgrave basically said that murders of Gardai by the PIRA amounted to âworkplace accidentsâ. That should be the end of Cosgrave but it wonât be because Cosgraveâs brand is about being a deplorable.
When you have high profile public âdeplorablesâ - basically demagogues - running interference for you, as SF do, itâs an automatic red flag.
Is it that SF wonât refer to the North as âThe Northâ or as Northern Ireland? Or that they refer to Ireland as âThe Southâ or as the Republic of Ireland?
I saw MLMD tweeting âhappy birthdayâ to Cosgrave recently & I gritted my teeth. Youâd think theyâd learn their lessons from their flirtation with News Gemma. While thereâd hardly be any formal (even informal?) alliance between The Ditch & SF, I reckon itâs just Cosgrave & his pals looking to wreck the place for his own ends so it suits them to paint âthe establishmentâ in a poor light & by default go easier on SF. But surely media adviser types in SF should be warning their political representatives not to be engaging with Cosgrave & his acolytes.
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So to confirm - the issue was that they wore balaclavas and everything else was ok?
thereâs also the alleged assaults that the gardai observed and didnt act on
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My belief is that SF have looked at the techniques of far right American propagandists and imported them here for a âleftâ audience. SFâs online support is all about a threatening sort of âhumourâ and memes etc. Cosgrave and âthe Ditchâ fulfil a sort of Daily Wire type role. The Daily Wire is a ânewsâ (I use the term loosely) website run by US far right influencer Ben Shapiro.
The US far right worked out that of they could just set up their own media and endlessly demonise the traditional major TV networks and papers of record, they could both bypass these organs entirely yet also compromise them into giving âfalse balanceâ.
I canât prove exactly what connection exists between Cosgrave and SF but Iâd be flabbergasted if there isnât serious back channel connections to a high level.
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Meh. Presumably these are âallegedâ by the self-same political group who were trying to make a political point by occupying the building and then looking to create a confrontation by getting thrown out to further their political agenda.
And youâre saying that they (and you it would seem) are highly outraged that the gardai were at the property for some odd reason but also outraged that the gardai didnât do enough when they were there?
Iâll take a large pinch of salt on that one if thatâs ok âŚ
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Interesting.
Do you think SF are that savvy & co-ordinated from a strategic point of view? They still seem pretty useless & incoherent a lot of the time, albeit the government parties arenât good at this online lark at all.
what a strange post. the gardai are there to enforce the law for all citizens, not just for the rachmann class
I wholeheartedly agree.
Where I cast doubt is to the âallegedâ assaults.
So if youâre assaulted while trying to make a political point itâs ok because you brought it on yourself?
Good effort at word twisting but no.
ill fix that for glas
So if youâre assaulted while trying to make a political point that tallback or the blueshirts disagree with itâs ok because you brought it on yourself?
What were you trying to say so? You seem to be saying that because people engineered a situation they donât merit the protection of gardai.
I was casting doubt on whether assaults (or other crimes) were ignored by the guards as part of some shadowy conspiracy as Art was insinuating above.
Did you have an issue that the law was being broken at that protest?
You appear to have dismissed alleged assaults because you donât like the protest group.
I said Iâd take allegations of them with a pinch of salt. I donât know for sure what happened. To be fair, even Art said they were alleged. What is undeniable though is that it is in the political interest of the protesting group to claim or exaggerate claims of assault.
Usually at those things there is a shit load of cameras (one of the reasons the Guards said that they wore balaclavas) so I presume any assaults were captured on camera, reported to the Guards and followed up? Did any charges result can you remember? (I canât)