Sinn Fein - Populism and Partionism

You cant bring British state terrorism up on this forum.

Nobody blamed the Ra for everything bad that has happened in Ireland.

The “Brits” excuse for everything is piss weak though.

What’s the excuse for the murder of Robert McCartney in 2005 though from them, just an awkward silence. How many SFers were in the toilet? @Thomas_Brady

Sinn Fein suspended a large number if people from the party and Gerry urged everyone present to speak up. I cant speak on behalf of the IRA, i was never a member.

70+ SF members, all from one SF branch. None talked to the police, including one current minister who lied about being there. That suspension meant nothing. All in this toilet apparently.

Speaks to the kind of people in the party. Those who would choose to go to a meeting with them lack a basic moral compass. The type who would decide to move to Spain for a bit of sun over theirs child’s future. Warped life priorities.

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This is our country, we’ll murder who we want.

Was Robert McCartney just someone who was unfortunate to be in wrong place at wrong time, or was he a target for the murderers who killed him

It is hard to know who to vote for. I wouldn’t have voted for a greaseball like Haughey, or a conversative kill joy like DeValera, but I couldn’t vote for someone who thinks lobbing a bomb into a shopping centre was justified, or planting one in a bin. There are some people in SF I could vote for, God knows I will never vote for FF, FG, Labour ever again. But it is a hard one to call. Yes, we should move on, but but but, it might take another few years yet.

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When was this? What shopping centre was a bomb lobbed into?

We signed up to the GFA to move forward politically… except Timmy and Tummy dont want to let SF actually move on politically.

Haughey for all his faults was a decent man. He organised training for IRA men in Foleys fields in Kinsealy at the start of the troubles and tried to organise weapons.

He told FG men to fuck off when they wanted to build a shopping centre with a bus depot in Temple Bar. These developments became cesspits in Birmingham, Slemersdale in Liverpool and all over England. He said he had a notion for Temple Bar. A tourists heaven and super for the Irish economy.

He was also instrumental in the development of the IFSC. Nuff said.

€1m from AIB and a few French shirts. He’s paid that back tenfold.

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I don’t remember the IRA lobbing any bombs into shopping centres and killing people.

But I do remember them carefully placing bombs on shopping streets and killing people.

I suppose the main thing is that the bombs weren’t lobbed and that it was shopping streets rather than shopping centres that were targeted.

That people were killed is irrelevant.

Haughey was a visionary and a statesman. He had a brilliant mind. The Succession Act 1965 advanced Ireland and women’s position no end. He was Ireland’s Napoleon.

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A likeable rogue.

He was a proper politician in fairness to him.

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He was a proper politician

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He was dead right about Fitzgerald attending the aul bilderberg meetings in the 80’s too.

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The way Haughey was treated at the end of his life was a national disgrace he was a pariah at Jack Lynchs funeral in Cork, it was disgusting to watch, so what he took a few shirts, he drove Ireland forward in ways you cannot imagine

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People going mad with him because he liked to dress well. You couldn’t make it up

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Jokes aside I don’t think he would have hung the country out to dry taking on all that bondholder debt in 2008/2009 either.

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Fucking paedos and gangsters running the scene now, Haugheys only crime was his love of Ireland. He was the only one Thatcher was afraid of

I’m not so sure about the “likeable” portion of that. He was authoritarian, aloof, narcissistic, vulgar and dictatorial. 95% of his Oireachtas members were afraid of their solid shite of him.

A proper politician and statesman nevertheless.

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