Thatâs a nonsense response, as you know.
You might be thinking of yet man from Waterford who shouts âup the raâ
Name me a political party that doesnât have a record of failing to deliver on promises?
I think of two kinds. One: parties which have never been in government. Two: the Nazis.
I think itâs a silly line youâre taking. Labour have made a big deal of specific promises and commitments in the past and have rowed back on all of them. Bacikâs million houses soundbite was peurile nonsense, itâs contemptible and itâs pathetic. Itâs like theyâve given up even pretending to be a proper party. I donât understand why labour are your flavour of the month, theyâre irrelevant and itâs of their own making. Itâs damning that in a climate thatâs crying out for a proper labour party they still canât raise a gallop. They should just shuffle off the stage now.
Ooooh outrage
Get back to me when Sinn Fein fail on their promises and then blame everybody else for them failing, which they will.
Thatâs a very weak response by your standards.
I wonât vote SF but I wonât be unhappy to see them in government. I think theyâll make a hames of a lot of things but no more no than FF or FG already do. But I think SF are the only party that will a difference to housing, their policy is markedly different, and that will be to the good.
Iâm making the point that every political party under the sun promises the sun, moon and stars. Politics is advertising.
Sinn Fein are very good at advertising. I suspect theyâll be a lot less good at government. But what they are very good at doing is shifting blame.
Labour are rubbish at shifting blame, which is why they always get slaughtered after being in government.
Labourâs problem is and always has been, theyâre too decent. Thatâs the Greensâ problem too. They donât have any demagogues to bark for them.
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I donât agree. Your current thesis is that itâs ok to promise anything because everyone is doing it. Itâs not. Bacikâs million houses promise is pathetic, itâs not plausible and itâs not a policy. Thereâs not a hint of thought or detail behind it.
Contrast current labour to the greens. A small party that has well thought out policies and has actually been very effective.
Shuffle off the stage? What do yiu want them to do? Have their 6 tds retire? Your arguments are weakened by your vehemence. A smaller party in government can only get so many of its policies through. Thats how it works. Itâs why thereâs programmes for government.
Thankfully SF and the SDs are untainted through never having actually done anything and they will save us.
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I donât think I even made any value judgment about empty promises. I simply stated they all do it, which they do.
You say the Greens have been very effective but theyâre still going to get slaughtered at the next election because theyâre prepared to go into government, good faith, shit at advertising and donât have demagogues there to bark for them. Same as Labour over the years.
They may as well retire, surely half them are near retirement age anyway?
You did in fact. You said theyâre all at it so basically itâs grand that labourake specific promises and break them, or come out with contemptible and outlandish claims that theyâll build a millun homes. I really donât think thereâs any excuse for such nonsense.
Where did I make the value judgement? Hereâs a value judgement: political parties shouldn;t make false promises.
But they do. Thatâs the reality of life.
I donât see why youâd be more down on Labour for doing something that everybody does.
Everybody does it, or everybody else is doing it, as somebody once said.
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